Sick Tree Frog

[Ebony]

Hows it looking now as its been about a week. Good luck at the vet

[Kaddock]

Not much worse, but definitely no better. I'm pretty sure they are both still eating. We shall see...

[Ebony]

Im glad it's not worse. Let us know how you get on. Good Luck.

[Kaddock]

The doctor said that she didn't know what the problem was, but gave me anti biotics and also said that their bones were very soft, so I've been offering them meal worms as a supplement to the crickets now.

Well, I'm pretty sure that nothing has changed for the better. The meds don't seem to have helped one bit. At this point I'm thinking that the only loose variable in their tank (ie item which didn't say it was safe for frogs) is the plant that I got at the dept. store. I am going to clean their cage today, and replace the plant with another silk one.

So... Now they will have coconut fiber on the bottom, coated with live "frog moss" a wooden log thing and serious amounts of silk plants! I'm also going to get them a better water dish today. I really don't see what could be going wrong.

I guess I will continue with the anti biotics (the vet said seven days, should I stop???). But after that I don't know what to do for my little buddies besides feed them, clean their cage, and provide detoxed water.

[Jace]

Soft bones? Are you dusting the crickets and mealworms with a calcium D3 supplement? Mealworms have really no nutritional value unless you need to plump up your little frogs due to weight loss. Mealworms are like the candybar of insects...a nice treat but not part of a balanced diet.

Even if the meds don't seem to be working, I would continue to use them for the recommended time. The money was spent on it, and it could be helping in ways that we just can't see yet.

Would you be able to post pictures of your setup? Perhaps myself or another member might see something that could make a world of difference? From your description, though, it sounds like you have a great setup. Unfortunately, the problem may be with the frogs themselves and completely out of your control; sometimes even Mother Nature makes a mistake. However, if the frogs are still eating, there is still hope. Best of luck and keep us posted!

[Kaddock]

Soft bones? Are you dusting the crickets and mealworms with a calcium D3 supplement? Mealworms have really no nutritional value unless you need to plump up your little frogs due to weight loss. Mealworms are like the candybar of insects...a nice treat but not part of a balanced diet.

Well, then what's up with the attached chart? Looks like meal worms have an OK rating, but less than a crickets... I just got them because the vet recommended them for some reason.I gut load my crickets (Fluker's high calcium cricket diet) I don't dust them. Half of them end up in the water bowl until they find a leaf and climb out, so dusting would be fruitless.

Even if the meds don't seem to be working, I would continue to use them for the recommended time. The money was spent on it, and it could be helping in ways that we just can't see yet.

I'm still medicating, but it's been longer than the recommended time by a few days.

Here is my picture with the dept store plant still inside of the enclosure... I wonder if it could be the soil they are sensitive too... Maybe Fred Meyer fertilized the plant with something nasty prior to selling it... Or pesticide! Now I'm scared... But that's their favorite place to chill, under the plant.

[Jace]

It's not recommended for frogs to be given food high in fat (as mealworms are) on a regular basis. However, I've used them to help a sick frog/toad gain weight, or to tempt a new addition to eat for me (bribery is an art form after all.. ). Regardless of the chart, based on information from other members, I usually only give mealworms as a treat and not as a main food source. I have never used a high calcium premade gut load for my crickets, so I'm not sure if an added dusting would be beneficial or not. Though I allow my PCF, Yoki, to hunt, I usually feed him two dusted crickets a week using feeding tongs to make sure he is getting his calcium.

Your setup looks fine to me. Similar to what I have done for Yoki-dirt base with a layering of moss overtop. If there were fertilizers or pesticides present, I think your frogs would have reacted much more violently and perhaps not still be alive. I always soak my plants several times in clean, treated water, and thoroughly wash the roots before putting them into my enclosures, just to be on the safe side.

I'm just putting this out there, but I wonder if the plastic water dish might be an issue? I know on another thread in the forum, it was mentioned not to keep young frogs in plastic pet containers as they seem to die-perhaps from the plastic leaking soemthing. With all the negativity about plastic everything nowadays, I wonder if it could be true for using plastic water dishes, especially with frogs being so sensitive?