New frogs

[redeyefrog]

Hello,
i just got 2 new red eyed tree frogs last week. One of them has been doing well and wakes up as soon as the lights go off in the evening. Our other one I'm a little worried about. He doesn't wake up until every light in the house is turned off and the room is completely dark.(around midnight) he seems less active than the other one and is smaller as well. I think he looks a little skinny. This morning I found him sitting in the same spot he was all day yesterday so I'm sure if he moved or ate at all last night. We feed about 10small crickets a night. This morning there were 6 left wondering around in the terrarium. These are our first frogs and I've. Attached a picture of him. Does he look ok? Or should

[ColleenT]

from what i have read, RETF take a little while to get used to change. give him time to relax and i'm sure he'll do fine. one of the unfortunate things about tree frogs is that they are Nocturnal. So we often miss all the fun.

[LilyPad]

Let me start by saying some red eyed tree frogs will sleep and/or not eat for several days after getting to a new home. They do not like change and will rebel. A lot of red eyes will not wake up until everything is off and silent, that is completely normal. They also seem to choose the same spot every day to sleep. I have one frog who has slept on the exact same leaf in the exact same spot since moving him to his new viv a month ago. If I didn't peek in now and then at night, I could easily assume he never moved.

Do not allow the crickets to wander, they will bite your frogs. Either bowl feed or find a way to remove the uneaten crickets every day.

He doesn't look too skinny, but his coloration does not look healthy. What time did you take this picture? First think in the morning after the lights came on? After lights out? They will change colors throughout the day and night, but in my experience, they should be a nice bright green during the day.

A quarantine style set up would make it A LOT easier to see if your frog is eating and pooping normally. That would be a plain tank with a water dish containing treated tap water no deeper than their chins (changed daily) damp, unprinted paper towels as substrate (changed every 1-2 days) and 1-2 glass bowls for feeding. Cover 3 sides to help them feel more comfortable. I did hang leaves from the screen and put a branch in there so they would have places to rest.

Please read the care sheet - Frog Forum - Red-Eyed Leaf Frog/Red Eyed Tree Frog Care - Agalychnis callidryas

And also fill this out so we can get more information about your frog and set up -

1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
2----please include a photo of the frog
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
8----what is the typical humidity level
9----what temperature is maintained
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
13---what kind of water is used
-----for misting
-----for the frog's soaking dish
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials
16---when is the last time the frog ate
17---have you found poop lately
18---how often is the frog fed
19---what size feeder is given
20---what other feeders are used as treats
21---what is the frog's main food source
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
24---calcium - what brand and how often
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
26---approximate age of the frog
27---how long have you owned the frog
28---who cared for the frog before you
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

[poison]

He doesn't look too skinny, but his coloration does not look healthy. What time did you take this picture? First think in the morning after the lights came on? After lights out? They will change colors throughout the day and night, but in my experience, they should be a nice bright green during the day.

I'm assuming this frog is a morph. Which would explain the odd color.

[redeyefrog]

They are albino red eyed tree frogs so they have a yellow coloring with purple sides and orangish feet. I have the two frogs in a live vivariam 12x12x18 the humidity hovers between 80-65. Temps are around 78. I have ro water misting with automatic mister. The local reptile pet store where we got him said to feed then 8-16 small crickets a day. I have a water dish in there for them but not much room for a feeding dish. I thought it was better for them to beagle to search for the crickets. Is this not a good idea? Here is what their home looks like

[LilyPad]

I'm assuming this frog is a morph. Which would explain the odd color.

That would explain some, but it still looks "off" for a daytime pic, even for an albino or lutino morph. If it was taken early AM or after lights out though, it could make sense. I am not familiar with the night-time coloring for other morphs.

[redeyefrog]

It was taken about 90min after the lights turned on I think. Other frog who is doing well and pretty outgoing is about the same color. But later on in the day she gets shinier.