Need help with new ACFs

[bddkec]

last week I moved a few african claw frogs into a 30 gallon tank with some goldfish. Before anybody shuns me, please understand that I'm fully aware of the risks I'm taking. I've heard of some people not having conflicts between the two, and some frogs killing the fish. So far, my frogs haven't been too aggressive with the fish at all. Tomorrow is the first tank cleaning day and I have a few questions. Should I even bother cleaning this current gravel, or should I get larger stones? I heard it's possible the frogs could accidentally eat them. Also, do you guys recommend any certain plants I should add? They seem to like the couple I have in there right now but I want to get rid of the couple fake ones I have. Lastly, can you tell if the frog in the last pictures is female yet, or are they too young?

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[tonijayne]

The size of our gavel is fine, if the gavel is swallowed they need to be able to pass it. I'm no expert on them but I brought 2 albinos 2 weeks ago and have done a lot of reading up on them. Mine are tiny and can't tell the sex of mine yet, but if u google African clawed breeding (if u intend to or not) it also tells you the earliest signs of how to tell the difference. If you brought yours both from same shop best not to breed they are most likely related.

[tonijayne]

African Clawed Frog Sexing and Breeding

[spotfin]

Yes clean the gravel. It looks rather deep so use a gravel vac to get the crude out. I have Anubias plants with my frogs. Hard to tell from the photos, but they do look like females.

[tonijayne]

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Yes clean the gravel. It looks rather deep so use a gravel vac to get the crude out. I have Anubias plants with my frogs. Hard to tell from the photos, but they do look like females.

2 deep? well 3 weeks ago I got two just baby albino clawed frog and put them straight into a 70gallon tank and they are fine,happily swiming around and darting from top to bottom and eating very well! the smaller the tank the less u let them grow (witch we all want the best for are frogs don't we). the frogs will have no problem going up for air in ur tank mine are a little smaller than urs and get up fine one gets up quicker than the other but it (I think is a he time will tell) goes up a bit slower but dus when needed to.... must add his (if a he) get up slower but is now staying on top looking for a way out for a adventure these do like to get out and about without thinking how they will live. If do get out if these 10gallon tank that are no good, leave a bucket of water out for the cutie to find coz will die without it..... and the one I'm guess ATM is a female darts up for air and straight bk down and chilling

[spotfin]

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2 deep? well 3 weeks ago I got two just baby albino clawed frog and put them straight into a 70gallon tank and they are fine,happily swiming around and darting from top to bottom and eating very well! the smaller the tank the less u let them grow (witch we all want the best for are frogs don't we). the frogs will have no problem going up for air in ur tank mine are a little smaller than urs and get up fine one gets up quicker than the other but it (I think is a he time will tell) goes up a bit slower but dus when needed to.... must add his (if a he) get up slower but is now staying on top looking for a way out for a adventure these do like to get out and about without thinking how they will live. If do get out if these 10gallon tank that are no good, leave a bucket of water out for the cutie to find coz will die without it..... and the one I'm guess ATM is a female darts up for air and straight bk down and chilling

I was referring to the depth of the gravel, not the tank.

[tonijayne]

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Yes clean the gravel. It looks rather deep so use a gravel vac to get the crude out. I have Anubias plants with my frogs. Hard to tell from the photos, but they do look like females.

2 deep? well 3 weeks ago I got two just baby albino clawed frog and put them straight into a 70gallon tank and they are fine,happily swiming around and darting from top to bottom and eating very well! the smaller the tank the less u let them grow (witch we all want the best for are frogs don't we). the frogs will have no problem going up for air in ur tank mine are a little smaller than urs and get up fine one gets up quicker than the other but it (I think is a he time will tell) goes up a bit slower but dus when needed to.... must add his (if a he) get up slower but is now staying on top looking for a way out for a adventure these do like to get out and about without thinking how they will live. If do get out if these 10gallon tank that are no good, leave a bucket of water out for the cutie to find coz will die without it..... and the one I'm guess ATM is a female darts up for air and straight bk down and chilling, don't know how true this is yet as mine only have rocks and large stones to hide under, bug have read that slik plants are best for the frogs to be homed with.

[SwimminSteve]

last week I moved a few african claw frogs into a 30 gallon tank with some goldfish. Before anybody shuns me, please understand that I'm fully aware of the risks I'm taking.

Hi bddkec,

Welcome to the forum. Yes, you are taking a risk housing these species together. Please keep an eye out for aggression. I'm unable to enlarge your photos for some reason, but your goldfish look like comets (or something similar). Do you plan to move these fish to a pond (or very large tank) as they outgrow this 30 gallon? Soon these fish will be too large for 30gal and a serious danger to your frogs. It's hard to tell in the little picture, but is one of your frogs missing a front leg? How did that happen?

If you are set on keeping these species together there are some concerns to address. Top priority is water quality.
How many frogs do you have? And how many fish? Goldfish and frogs are BIG waste producers so you need a heavy duty filter. What kind of filtration are you using now? I think you will need to be doing at least a 50% water change once a week with this heavy bioload.

As for the gravel, I see a lot of small pieces that a frog could ingest and cause impaction. I would recommend switching to a barebottom or a fine sand.

I don't keep live plants, so I can't help you there.

tonijayne-- I'm having a hard time reading your comments. Could you please avoid using slang abbreviations and run-ons? Thanks!