Green or White's Treefrog / Litoria caerulea caresheet

[John]

Our third care and information sheet is for White's Treefrog, known to Australians as the Green Treefrog, Litoriea caerulea. It was written by our very own Kurt Kunze. It can be found here.

Please use this thread to discuss/debate/argue/change the care and information sheet.

[Billy]

Cool! Hey, John, I know I promised that I'd do the sheet on FBTs, I'll have it to you soon. I'm still working on it. I'll hopefully have one for Bufo melanostictus sometime soon also.

[John]

Thanks Billy, I really appreciate it. I'm working the Gray Treefrog sheet - Kurt did some good work on it already and gave it to me to put in breeding info and photos.

[Herpvet]

Our third care and information sheet is for White's Treefrog, known to Australians as the Green Treefrog, Litoriea caerulea. It was written by our very own Kurt Kunze. It can be found here.

Please use this thread to discuss/debate/argue/change the care and information sheet.

Hi,

Thanks Kurt, very useful article.

Just a comment/ask for opinion - when researching a paper recently, I came to the conclusion that the preferred current name is Pelodryas caerulea. These names change so often nowadays it's difficult to be sure, and it appears to be one of those cases where not everyone agrees, but the consensus seemed to be for Pelodryas. Have I missed something more recent, or do you have any specific thoughts on that?

Best wishes,

Bruce.

[John]

I can't speak for Kurt but given the recent tendency of scientists to split first and ask questions later, I've become very sceptical of new taxonomy changes. The wise course seems to be to follow amphibiaweb.org's course, since many of the world's foremost herpetologists (real ones, scientists, not amateurs) are advisers on that site. Amphibiaweb still uses Litoria.

[Kurt]

You're welcome. I use Litoria for the same reason you use Pelodryas, it seems to be the general consensus. Personally, however, I rather use Pelodryas for caerulea as it seems to be built quite differently from other members of the genus Litoria, such as infrafrenata and chloris. Also there this whole subfamily name thing, Pelodryadinae. It seems weird to have a subfamily in where there are no frogs bearing the genus name Pelodryas.
So in conclussion, if it were up to me I would place caerulea and splendida back into the genus Pelodryas.

[Padda]

Thanks!

[Kurt]

You're welcome

[IgbyKibbits]

Quick question regarding the information on the PH level of the water. My tank is half water/half land (split bottom). The ph balance is running around 7.0 to 7.2; all water added is treated with the appropriate amount of reptisafe water conditioner, and then filtered continuously through a tank waterfall (that has insert filters inside). So, from the article (thanks by the way!), I know it's bad to have a ph level lower than 6.8. What's the high range that I should be on the look out for?

Thanks!

[Kurt]

A pH of 6.8 is ideal. A pH below 6.4 or lower can be harmful, especially if kept at these levels for extended periods. While at the same time a pH above 7.0 can allow for the toxicty of ammonia. Below 7.0 ammonia become ammonium, a much less toxic substance.

[IgbyKibbits]

Thanks Kurt for the quick reply! Tonight was our thorough tank cleaning, so it was good to have the information going in so we could check the new water appropriately!

[DisguisedMadness]

One thing I didn't really see is what their temp and humidity should be at. I'm really a beginner owner. I've had my frogs for 3 years, but was never able to get a proper tank and environment for them until now.

[FROG WORLDZ]

how do you know what gender your white lip frog is??


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[StickySally]

Hey john. How many gallons should two female whites be housed in?


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[irThumper]

Since FF got hacked the care sheet has a 404 error, so here's a link to a care sheet done by John for Reptiles magazine: http://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Care...og-Care-Sheet/

[Cliygh and Mia 2]

Well how I get to the care sheets is go to articles, and click the mini icon that says care articles (in-between news and vivarium articles)

[rice]

The link wont work for me. I'm also wondering what size exo terra i would need for two WTFs?

[deranged chipmunk]

I wouldn't go any smaller than an 18x18x25 for a pair.


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[irThumper]

The small-tall 18"x18"x24" Exo-Terra would work in a pinch for a pair or trio of males, but some of the girls can get up to 4+ inches, so I'd recommend an 18"x24"x24" medium-tall Exo-Terra.

[Ranita]

What type of container are you moving your frogs into during feeding time? Mine will not take anything from tongs they are still quite small like one in

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