My "build"

[DigitalPunk]

That looks great! The pups will find a way. I have one pup now that grew straight out from the parent plant and around a stick before it started heading towards the light. Nature always finds a way

Use your finger on the tips of the leafs and put some pressure towards the ground. If it has a lot of movement you may want to wrap some floral wire around the bas and the wood to hold it in place for a few months while the anchor roots grow and secure the plant.

[awelcome]

I can't visualize how I would wrap it to the log? I did pick up floral wire though. I am still considering attaching the spikier green one to the background. But I am kind of considering going with the skewer method just so I don't have to try to twist wire behind it after it's in, or guess before putting it in. If I do the skewers should I at least put a little moss to have something to help pin it... I know too much Bill said was a bad idea (well he said any) but maybe just a tiny bit to help pin and hide the piece of skewer?

[DigitalPunk]

Start with the wire pointing at the ground on one side of the wood and wrap it up over the top and down around the wood. Then cross it to the other side. You may even need to do a wrap around the base of the plant to hold it more securely. The warp around the plant doesn't need to be so tight it is leaving marks on the plant, but tight enough the plant doesn't move to much. Keep wrapping it around (forming an X on the top of the wood (the wraps around the wood can be as tight as you can get them. Make sure the wire isn't pointing out for the frog to hurt itself on it. I then lay sphagnum or any other kind of moss over the wire to hide it from view. After a few months the wire can be removed and the plant will hold itself in place.

There isn't any real technique to the wire. You are just holding the pant where you want it until it can hold itself.

[awelcome]

ok, so basically whatever works lol. Might be tricky to get it flush enough to the log not to leave gaps though, but I'll play around. When you go to remove it wouldn't it be kind of stuck in the roots? Is it a hassle to get out, and does it have to come out?

[DigitalPunk]

No it doesn't have to come out and it can be a hassle. More so because you have to disturb the tank to do it than anything. When I remove mine I use a pair of side cutters and cut off sections of it so I don't have to move the object it is wrapped around to much to remove it all. I mostly remove it to get the potentially sharp wire out of the tank and get it to a more natural environment, but you can absolutely leave it in.


But yes. Whatever works. If you have gaps then you can press them down to the wood. Gaps are fine, your frog will not try to wedge itself between the wire and the wood.

[awelcome]

ok few bumps in the road... once you start putting stuff in and get a 2 inch drainage layer it really fills up fast! I definitely don't have room for the turtle log she normally hides under, so I propped up a couple of leaves to cover the sides so she may feel secure there... and hopefully once plants grow more there will be even better hiding. But that leads me to my first question... once the plants start filling in is she going to be able to move around in there?! I tried to leave at least one path to the back corner but I don't know much about that creeping vine that I planted or that burgundy thread on and how much they will fill in that space. Another issue was just not being able to put in a few things I had picked out like the vine because with wanting to have a slightly higher substrate to the back I just don't have the space I thought I might. I HOPE I planted the plants well.... it's not like I have a lot of options in there lol. Probably one of the biggest issues though is the leaf litter.... it's just SO huge and with everything else in there I don't even know if I need to put much. I certainly don't think I can utilize it as it's meant to be piled together a bit, but I more used it to cover the moss in places to not only add visual difference/appeal but also so the frog has some smoother spots to hunt. I do have some stuff I might still try to attach to the glass on top for decoration, but not sure. I kind of hate the water dish taking up so much space and might look for even smaller one, or phase it out eventually, which will give more space down there for whatever, but for now it stays. My only other concern I think at the moment is where to feed her... she's used to an open spot for feeding.... would you do the log? or just as bare a place as I can find on the leaf/moss? I am liking how it's looking though.... but before I completely finalize things I wanted your thoughts of course. I don't know if I got a side pic, but the base layers really do fill up a lot of the tank.... I didn't even use all the drainage though, and it's no more than 2 inches for sure, and the substrate is only high on the back corner.

So here are the pics I quickly snapped... what do you think? Second and third pics show the leaves I propped up for privacy, and the last pic I hope shows you the little path I have back... does that look adequate for space to get back there for sure, even when the plants grow?

also, the base layers and water dish partially cover some of those front air holes... do you think with the gaps around the door piece and what's left, and opening it a couple times a day it will get enough air?

[awelcome]

I have put the hygro back in there, and am trying to bring the humidity back up to see how it's going to work... but it's staying around 70 so far. How long does it normally take to bring it up from the start? I don't know the first time I did it because I didn't have the hygro until the next day. I wet the ABG before putting it in, moss soaked and I squeezed some out, and I have misted, but still it's not going up. Temp is at 73ish though so that's fine. Should I have put any water in the drainage layer? I also put the water dish in and partially filled it back up (so as not to spill when I move it). Thoughts? I hate leaving the frog in that bowl set-up for too long without having the hygro/thermo in there to monitor too so hope to finish this soon.