Introduction and call for help

[Lija]

Ok got it! Pics were self explanatory. He is very stressed out and being in KK is not helping, put him back, add way more plants, branch or two, so it'd look like forest of sorts. Cover sides of the tank with anything not see through and leave him alone for a few days, then offer crickets. Dont use glass bowl, some frogs are not getting it right away, so just drop crickets in a tank.

Fecal test wont hurt to do anyway, if one frog has parasites, both will need to be treated.

[patiomom]

Thank you! Will do.
One question -- we are going away for 4 days. I was planning on having to take him to a friend's to take care of him and his pal. Should I just leave him here and have someone add water but nothing else? I can start calling neighbors I don't know... if they don't have to do the crickets they may be willing to do it. (I'd still probably have to take the other one to the friends as he is eating like gangbusters)

[Lija]

No the water needs to be not added, but changed completely.

i think i didnt quite get a question - are you asking if that is ok to put them both together after you fix the enclosure and leave them both without a food for 4days only changing water?

[patiomom]

No the water needs to be not added, but changed completely.

i think i didnt quite get a question - are you asking if that is ok to put them both together after you fix the enclosure and leave them both without a food for 4days only changing water?

Sorry. I did mean change the water.

What I am really saying is that we are going away for 4-5 days. I am concerned about stressing him further by transporting the and a new enclosure. So, would it be too much time without crickets if I left the stressed one here in his enclosure (I already covered the sides and am going out to get plants as soon as I can) and just had someone come in to change the water, if I am not likely to be adding crickets for a few days anyway. My issue in finding a pet sitter was someone who wasn't afraid to handle the crickets. If that is too long without at least offering crickets, I will probably need to transport him although I may go beg a neighbor and show them how easy the cricket thing is to do.

[Mentat]

You need to get temp's up to 85F and humidity around 50-60%. Also, heat mats in frogs enclosure need to be affixed to side. Reason is frogs bury to cool down. Myself do not trust bottled water. It is more safer to use treated tap (Seachem Prime or ExoTerra Aquatize) since they treat those bottled waters to human drinking city standards, not frog standards. The water dish should be cleaned and refilled daily even if it looks clear. The coco substrate should be mixed with treated tap until slightly damp and clumps in fist without dripping water out.

Are you driving to vacation site? How far? Maybe it's possible to take them with you .

[patiomom]

You need to get temp's up to 85F and humidity around 50-60%. Also, heat mats in frogs enclosure need to be affixed to side. Reason is frogs bury to cool down. Myself do not trust bottled water. It is more safer to use treated tap (Seachem Prime or ExoTerra Aquatize) since they treat those bottled waters to human drinking city standards, not frog standards. The water dish should be cleaned and refilled daily even if it looks clear. The coco substrate should be mixed with treated tap until slightly damp and clumps in fist without dripping water out.

Are you driving to vacation site? How far? Maybe it's possible to take them with you .

Just checked, temp is 85+ on warm side -- 75+ on cool side. This is what all the White's tree frog care sites I've found recommend. Humidity is correct too.

I will switch to treating the tap water.

No, we are taking a Megabus, can't take them with us in a 18x18x24 terrarium, and that would be even more stressful I'd think. They will be in a calm environment at the other houses, away from curious eyes of children, etc for five days. We do clear the water dishes every day -- dump, rinse, rinse in spring water, and refill. At least once but often twice because they get stuff in them.

Thanks to both of you for your advice. We'll keep our fingers crossed for little MiSH.