Red Eye Tree Frog question

[bshmerlie]

I think you should post where you got them from as a warning for other buyers to stay away from this company. I was so sad when I saw what happened to your frogs.

[Paul Rust]

I had a conversation with Seth because he has dealt with a lot of stuff like this and knows a lot of sellers. He has had WC frogs arrive in much worse shape, I'll spare you the details. The good news is that the survivors will probably be fine and if they are scarred up it just makes them special (thinking of Philomenia and Inshallah) two badly damaged babies that are dear to my heart. It is up to the OP to decide to reveal the seller and hopefully the seller makes it right for her. I will tell you it was not a sponsor of this forum that sold them to her.

Edit: I hope you don't mind me mentioning our conversation Seth.

[SethD]

I doubt there will be scaring at all from the looks of things. It looks like shallow though extensive rubbing that didn't even go through the skin. Something that would heal up completely in a few months max assuming they do ok. If there is no "meat" showing in the wounds it is a pretty sure thing that it will not leave visible scarring if the frog lives. They look a little battered, which is not uncommon for wc frogs, but they don't look terrible. If they eat they will probably be ok.

[crhoads18]

The frogs came from Louisville KY, I am in Manchester TN. The seller stated that he was not the first person to own these frogs. He said:

"The RETF I have had for a few months now & they are all doing very well.....they were very skinny when I got them (pretty much rescued) them from their previous owner.....I am not sure if they are CB or WC though. Again, they are all in good condition and honestly represented."

Basically I'd like to know:

1. Is there any possible way this could have happened during shipping?

2. I've seen some people say these will heal given time, but they look like old wounds (healed) to me. Is there anyway to know the age of the wounds?

3. Should I medicate? (Again my initial impression was that these were scars)

**EDIT** I am trying to give the seller the benefit of the doubt.

[Paul Rust]

I would certainly treat with Panacur using the dusting method.
http://www.frogforum.net/care-articl...first-aid.html
Ask him to replace the dead frog, if he won't then reveal his identity here. I would be thankful that any are still alive and buy from Josh's Frogs, Alpha Pro Breeders or Brooklyn Dart frogs from now on. They will deliver 1st rate animals and guarantee them. Every frog I have ever received from Josh has been in excellent condition and as a matter of fact the first frog I ever bought was a yellow Galac that he sold me and he is still going strong and healthy. Stay away from shady dealers on kingsnake and fauna. I'm sorry this happenned to you and I hope people will learn something from it.

[crhoads18]

I would certainly treat with Panacur using the dusting method.
http://www.frogforum.net/care-articl...first-aid.html
Ask him to replace the dead frog, if he won't then reveal his identity here. I would be thankful that any are still alive and buy from Josh's Frogs, Alpha Pro Breeders or Brooklyn Dart frogs from now on. They will deliver 1st rate animals and guarantee them. Every frog I have ever received from Josh has been in excellent condition and as a matter of fact the first frog I ever bought was a yellow Galac that he sold me and he is still going strong and healthy. Stay away from shady dealers on kingsnake and fauna. I'm sorry this happenned to you and I hope people will learn something from it.

I was already planning on treating for parasites, I was looking for opinions on medicating the wounds. The guy isn't what I would call shady, he had several positive reviews and at the time I thought the price was right. Thanks for all the help everyone.

[Kurt]

I don't think there is a need to treat any wounds, none appear serious.

[kellie]

I would certainly treat with Panacur using the dusting method.
http://www.frogforum.net/care-articl...first-aid.html
Ask him to replace the dead frog, if he won't then reveal his identity here. I would be thankful that any are still alive and buy from Josh's Frogs, Alpha Pro Breeders or Brooklyn Dart frogs from now on. They will deliver 1st rate animals and guarantee them. Every frog I have ever received from Josh has been in excellent condition and as a matter of fact the first frog I ever bought was a yellow Galac that he sold me and he is still going strong and healthy. Stay away from shady dealers on kingsnake and fauna. I'm sorry this happenned to you and I hope people will learn something from it.

since you mentioned brooklyn dart frogs, i wanted to ask you a question directly. i'm from nj and have been interested in buying a RETF or 2. but, after reading this story, i'm skeptical of having any animals shipped to me. brooklyn is less than an hour ride for me. do you know if he owns a storefront or if he breeds out of his home? and if he's actually in brooklyn? heheh i can contact him regarding this, but i figured i'd just ask here, since i was skimming the forums and you mentioned him by name as a reputable seller.

[Kurt]

Brooklyn, huh? There will be a show in White Plains July 11th and Black Jungle will be there, they have some of my baby red-eyes.

[Lacey]

Why not take them to the vet and see if there is anything they can do to help and if they have any parasite issues to treat as well. I am so sorry about what happened to your frogs and wish I could help. I hope that you keep the frogs so they don't have to be shipped again. I'm sure that you are looking out for their best interests.

[SethD]

2. I've seen some people say these will heal given time, but they look like old wounds (healed) to me. Is there anyway to know the age of the wounds?

3. Should I medicate? (Again my initial impression was that these were scars)

Other than an educated guess based on how it looks there is no way to know the age of the scratches. I tend to doubt that they are old healed scars because I doubt a frog that was injured badly enough to leave scarring of that degree on the head region would survive the wounds. It looks more like what I call "paint scratching" where the frog gets the colored part of his skin scraped off usually by leaping against something. Such light scratches look just like the pictured frogs and will heal over in a few months. As far as medication for the wounds it shouldn't be necessary no deeper than it appears to be. It should heal on its own.

[Paul Rust]

Other than an educated guess based on how it looks there is no way to know the age of the scratches. I tend to doubt that they are old healed scars because I doubt a frog that was injured badly enough to leave scarring of that degree on the head region would survive the wounds. It looks more like what I call "paint scratching" where the frog gets the colored part of his skin scraped off usually by leaping against something. Such light scratches look just like the pictured frogs and will heal over in a few months. As far as medication for the wounds it shouldn't be necessary no deeper than it appears to be. It should heal on its own.

I completely agree here. Just treat for parasites and chalk it up to experience. We really appreciate you weghing in on this Seth.

[Kurt]

I guess I am not needed here. The situation is under control.