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    Are Luecs fun to own? I read that they are bold which is almost required anymore lol. I have enough shy frogs

    On an unrelated note. The Autumn Fern seems to be struggling a bit. I am writing it off as transplant die off, but if it gets to bad I may have to pull it and set it up in my grow out tank to acclimate to terrarium life Maybe the shady spot is a bit to shady...
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    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Hey guys I'm fairly new to the site and this is my first post! I'm looking to build my first viv soon to house some auratus so I've been doing a ton of research. Paul this build is nothing short of amazing and your how-to's have been great as well as your youtube videos. I have two questions and two comments. 1. What kind of paint do you use to paint your foam background? 2. Do you have to seal the paint with anything once its dry? ok and my comments; 1. I'm a carpenter by trade and so I'm reasonably handy. Well when I was reading through your conversion steps it seemed like it could be helpful to run a sharp putty knife under the edge of the tank frame that you removed a few times to cut it loose a bit before you have to pry it off. and 2. a few 2x4's cut to the same depth as the tank that you would lay the door on could help to hold the door exactly level and in place while you epoxy the hinges in place. And I use masking tape a ton to hold things in place while I check hinges to make sure things line up square and the edges and corners don't rub funny.

    This seems like a great community, Thanks.
    ~adam

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    Goose,

    First of all Welcome to the Frog Forum! I love it here and I hope you will too!

    Sorry I missed the response and it took me 3 days to figure that out..... Some welcome huh?

    Thank you for the compliments

    1. What kind of Paint - We use plain ole acrylic paint. Once the paint dries (which takes literally no time at all when doing highlights light this)
    2. we spray a clear polyurethane over it to seal it in. We use the Kryloc <sp> spray. Bought it at Walmart.

    Thank you for the comments - Yes there are much easier way to do things than the way I had to resort to. The 2x4 idea is excellent and is one I wish I had thought of at the time lol! I did wedge a putty knife under the lip of the frame between where I cut it, but the silicone was very unforgiving. Again I am sure there is some way someone has tried that makes that much easier. I really tried to document the exact steps I took to accomplish this with the hopes that someone (like you) would watch and see how I did it and build on what I showed and do a tank better, easier, and more efficient

    Thanks for taking the time to read, watch, and Comment!
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Paul,
    Thanks for the info. Don't worry about the time it took, everyone gets busy. I have REALLY enjoyed learning and researching on this site in preparation for getting some darts of my own. I WAS encouraged and inspired by your build, so well done. I'm doing some filming when I work on my tank, its spent alot of time sitting though, partly cause of the money it takes to put into it and partly cause of chasing a toddler here at home. I'll be sure to share some pics along the way and see about having a video put together when its all done too.

    Thanks Again,
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    Awesome can't wait to see it. Yes tank building takes a lot of time, money, and energy lol. So Do toddlers
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    That is an absolutely amazing tank Paul! It is crazy how much it changed from the first page! After talked to some people on this forum, I was trying to find more info on how people were doing with their false bottoms set ups, and your initial build looked really cool (but like you said limited floor space). What did you end up doing with that front part in the finished set up? I am not sure if I saw that in the videos or pictures.

    Either way, that is such a cool tank! My Whites are jealous!

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    I ended up extending the false bottom to cover the whole floor. The Cits are not great climbers and I worried about them getting down in the 2 - 3 inch space above the water and drowning.

    Thanks for the compliment. The tank turned out nice, but has some design flaws for the frogs I added. I was hoping they would like to climb like Azureus do, but I was wrong. This Cits have been moved to a temp tank while some tank remodeling is being done.
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    I owe and update to this thread and will try to get one done tomorrow. The tank got gutted down to the glass and set back up as a tree frog tank. Live and learn i suppose lol. The Red Eye tree frogs we keep are now enjoying the 36" of height and the Cits will be moving into the now empty 24x18x24

    I will post some pictures of the remodel tomorrow.
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    As promised

    First I ripped the 40B apart to get ready to convert it to a Tree frog tank.



    The original drainage hole was to high. I drilled a hole lower down and used the negative from the new hole to plug the old one. I installed a bulkhead to allow excess water to drain off the tank automatically.



    Traditional drainage layer with a layer a quilt batting added for extra filtration (keep more soil particles out of the drainage layer)



    Decided to do a "Flybyfern" style moss fine in the tank for the reds to hopefully climb on and enjoy. Here are all the needed supplies laid out. I first drilled a hole through the magnetic ledge and threaded the rope through. The end of the rope was knotted to keep it from pulling free. The crochet hook was used to weave the sheet moss and sphagnum moss through the loops in the ropes weave.



    The process is time consuming. From beginning to end i spent roughly 6 hours weaving moss to complete the near 6 ft vine, but the results are stunning and well worth the effort!






    Here is a close up of the sheet moss I used. I bought it from NeHerp. They sell it as "NeHerp Moss"



    I bought 4 of these aquatic heater suction cups from petco for like $2 or $3 and will use them to mount the vine to in the tank. I should also add that prior to starting I used the rope to roughly map out how I wanted the vine to hang in the tank and cut the top to length.



    The completed vine in the tank. The wood will be used in the final version, but ignore the broms in the planter. they were just sitting there to keep them from dying. The pothos was also ultimately removed from the wood.




    And here is the final layout. The plants in the substrate were a gift from my good friend Heather and the rope for the vine along with the idea to make a moss vine are from My other good friend Lynn.



    Hopefully this will be the final layout for a long long time lol.
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    It looks amazing, Paul, I was planning on doing a moss vine for my next tank also. Lynn had such an awesome idea
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    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

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    Looks great!
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    It looks awesome Paul! I love Lynn's moss vine idea, and I'm sure your red eyes will love it It seems you're always making new tanks
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    Thanks Amy, Heather, and Josh!

    Josh - Yeah unfortunately I have done a fair bit of trial and error along the way and have done as much tearing down of tanks as I have building. I am finally doing tanks that I am happy with over all. As with anyone who makes a tank I find fault in all my tanks shortly after completing them, but I am finding fewer faults and seem to be able to live with them lol.
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Hey, practice makes perfect (even if it can be expensive)
    “Life is a journey, not a destination.” -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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