Help Identify Please!

[Petrowsky27]

I need help figuring out what kind of little dudes I have. I am assuming they are toads, because I read that they morph very quickly, which these did. The tadpoles were caught from my grandmothers fish pond up in the mountains of PA. We've had them about 3 1/3 weeks and one of them is already pretty fully transformed, the other three are still in their final tadpole stages. My kids want to keep them but I need to figure out what they are so we know how to house and feed them. I have pictures of them as tadpoles and one of the most recent fully formed one. It's hard to tell by the picture, but he is very very small, like the size of a pencil eraser. Also, the "mother" was caught recently out of the koi pond by my grandma and I have a picture of her too, if that helps. I was told she was about 3-4 inches not including the legs.

[Petrowsky27]

Bump?

[Gum]

I'm no expert, but that is definitely not a toad...

[TrymNois]

Well the first picture is some kind of frog, bu the other ones look like either American or Fowlers Toads

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[Frogman1031]

The first picture is a bullfrog but the rest are indeed toads


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[Petrowsky27]

I had several people suggest bullfrog, which the first does look and sound like, but the tadpole babies are no way bullfrogs. they are way too small. The pictures I saw of bullfrog tadpoles were huge. These babies I have, even fully morphed are still smaller than the tip of my pinky. So maybe even though the bullfrog and the tadpoles came from the same small pond, they bullfrog wasn't in fact the mother of the tadpoles? I really wish I could figure out what they are.

[LilyPad]

The (possible?) bullfrog is not the mother of those tadpoles, the one picture you posted is some kind of toad, like Mitchell told you before, either american or fowlers most likely. Toads lay their eggs and leave. They don't stay to care for them.

[Mentat]

Hello and welcome to FF! Yes, presuming the caught bullfrog is mother to the baby toadlets threw your ID efforts off. You will need to let them grow a bit before final species ID is more accurate; this guide should help with that: PA HERP IDENTIFICATION. Also, you can post more pics as they reach 1 in. in length in here to verify final ID.

Once out of water, recommend transfer them to a quarantine type set-up until they reach 1 in. or so. Use damp (dechlorinated tap) unprinted paper towels as substrate, a cap or shallow lid with dechlorinated tap to toadlets chin, and a small silk plant. Change water cap daily and the paper towels every couple days.

Feed the toadlets daily; Fruit Flies & pinhead crickets. Once they get larger you can add to their diet mouth size pieces of not dyed night crawlers (from Walmart's sport section or local bait shops) cut from pointy end. NC's will eventually become their staple diet and you can feed body length pieces when toads reach 2 in. and full size ones when 3 in. plus. Insects should be smaller than distance between toads eyes as they grow to prevent impaction. Also, need to use supplements, more info on that in here: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html.

Once they reach 1 in., transfer them to their final home in accordance with this care guide: Frog Forum - Toad Basics - Keeping ground-dwelling Toads. A care sheet for Bufo, Anaxyrus, Spea, Scaphiopus, Ollotis, Alytes, Pelobates. Good luck !

[chudson05]

it's a green frog they are common in my pond
the babies are probably toads

[Frogman1031]

No the green frogs would have dorsolateral ridges down their backs. They are not present on this specimen


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