I think my WTF may be sick..

[Lija]

Michael, dont do it! Panacur is not soluble in water and if you try to drop on the back nothing will happen it wont be absorbed. You will need to force feed or try cricket thing.

[mpmistr]

Michael, dont do it! Panacur is not soluble in water and if you try to drop on the back nothing will happen it wont be absorbed. You will need to force feed or try cricket thing.

Oh, I was reading that people were doing that, I did not realize it doesn't work. I will have to force feed then. I don't have the meds or instructions from Dr. Frye yet regardless.

Out of curiosity, is this article out of date now? http://www.frogforum.net/care-articl...aid-print.html

[Lija]

No panacur is the same as for dogs/cats/ people. It works in intestines but is not getting absorbed in a blood stream.

[mpmistr]

I see. I have to be honest I was hoping to use the drop method until he was eating again. The other frog will be no issue, he eats non stop.

My skinny/non eating frog looks a little better today, he actually snuck and ate a cricket when I was cleaning out his enclosure tonight. He seems to be a trooper.

Sadly he just won't take the tongs. I'm going to have to look at YouTube videos on force feeding Whites. I do worry since Dr. Frye said that the lung worm infestation was pretty bad, if too many worms dying too fast could cause septic shock, I assume he will address this in his instructions. I'm guessing once the panacur is in his system the appetite will return.

[Lija]

Strongyloides are not too bad, it will be fine. Im sure you will get detailed instructions with your meds. You just really keep everything clean, not fun but hey, the worst of over, you know what you are treating, you have meds on their way.

[mpmistr]

Medicine arrived. Each frog ate a cricket dusted with Panacur and received 4 drops of Metronidazole on their backs as Dr. Frye prescribed. I really lucked out, the non-eating frog by some miracle decided to eat (eventually -- i left him in a tupperware container with a dusted cricket for a few minutes alone) today so I didn't have to force feed him a dusted cricket, I am hoping the Metron kicks in and he will just take the next round of dusted crickets without needing to be forced.

So my only real question at this point is the instructions say to feed weekly dusted crickets to the frog to administer the Panacur, does this mean they should eat several dusted crickets or will one cricket dusted suffice to start? My gut is telling me to start slow, since at least one frog is heavily infested with lung worms having a mass die off may kill the frog... right?

[Lija]

No, not from these worms, it is ok to kill them all, it is not going to happen anyway, did you get a one time doses separately?
You should have, if not call him for clarification.

[flybyferns]

Medicine arrived. Each frog ate a cricket dusted with Panacur and received 4 drops of Metronidazole on their backs as Dr. Frye prescribed. I really lucked out, the non-eating frog by some miracle decided to eat (eventually -- i left him in a tupperware container with a dusted cricket for a few minutes alone) today so I didn't have to force feed him a dusted cricket, I am hoping the Metron kicks in and he will just take the next round of dusted crickets without needing to be forced.

So my only real question at this point is the instructions say to feed weekly dusted crickets to the frog to administer the Panacur, does this mean they should eat several dusted crickets or will one cricket dusted suffice to start? My gut is telling me to start slow, since at least one frog is heavily infested with lung worms having a mass die off may kill the frog... right?

Michael ,
Dust their REGULAR feeding once a week for 4 weeks.
Hearing that they are very 'infested' , you might consider repeating the Panacur again tonight w/ a regular feeding.
This is especially important if the "dust' was not covering the cricket enough?

If you have a mortar and pestle--- grind it really fine first > then dust

You need to bang the intestinal bugs....
The reason it is done for 4 weeks in a row is so that you minimize the risk of re-infestation.

Speak to Dr Frye about the 'mass die off' concept??? I don't know about that?
As Lija mentions, a 2nd fecal needs to be sent.
? 2 weeks after treatment----check w Dr Frye on this as well

This is such an ordeal ! Sorry , Michael
I have been there....I completely understand what you are going through.

You could email Dr Frye - now....... about all of this
He has been kind enough to answer me on a Sunday

[Lija]

Oh, I was reading that people were doing that, I did not realize it doesn't work. I will have to force feed then. I don't have the meds or instructions from Dr. Frye yet regardless.

Out of curiosity, is this article out of date now? http://www.frogforum.net/care-articl...aid-print.html

I havent read the whole thing yet, but til panacur it is correct including panacur itself. Need to read it properly, it is written 4y ago, some things have changed since then but not by much.