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    Default Re: I think my WTF may be sick..

    I see. I only do kind of worry about Chytrid because I also keep African Clawed Frogs which of course are known for being Chytrid carriers. I do not use any equipment between the two, the driftwood I did use did come from the ACF tank.. but it had dried out for close to a year on my porch in the sun.. so I figured this was not a concern.

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    Have you ever tested your ACF's?
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    Default Re: I think my WTF may be sick..

    Quote Originally Posted by Heatheranne View Post
    Have you ever tested your ACF's?
    I have not, I own 4 ACF. I've had them for about two years and I've never had an issue with them. (of course they do not show any negative effects of chytrid)

    That being said, besides a peice of wood that literally did sit out and dry in the sun for a year, nothing was cross contaminated. I don't believe Chytrid can survive being dried out for that long.

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    Look why dont you test just for knowing sake. You can do just one, if one has it everyone will.
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    Default Re: I think my WTF may be sick..

    Quick update.. still waiting on fecal test so I can get meds.

    What do you guys think about the thin frog? He seems to be putting on a little weight.

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    I am having a hard time getting them to eat waxworms, they just don't move around enough. Crickets seem to be favored but they still are not eating all that much but I do try to feed them daily if they will eat.

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    It looks pretty good to me hey dont worry about how much they eat, they eat as much as they can fit at the moment.
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    He definitely is looking better. He's up on his front legs, which is a good sign.

    Like Lija said, as long as he's eating something, that's great!


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    Default Re: I think my WTF may be sick..

    Still waiting on the fecal exam results, I called the vet and they had to send the results to a Zoologist. They just didn't find anything they said, but they admitted they just aren't sure how to identify frog parasites. They did find larvae but they could not identify it.. if this goes no where I am going to just ship feces to Dr Frye..

    I told them I know the chubby frog has a protozoan infestation (smelly poo) and I'm not sure which results had the larvae.. anyways long story short, still waiting..

    My skinny frog is not eating at all. He may eat one cricket a day if I am lucky, one is better than nothing. I'm dusting them of course.

    I've been using the 'glass bowl trick' to keep waxworms and crickets in his enclosure at night, but none have been eaten. I try tongs at night to see if he'll eat, he may eat one.

    I don't think he has moved from where he is in the last 24 hours, I check him daily, his weight is okay. He is way thinner than he should be but I don't think he is in danger, yet.

    The chubby guy is doing great besides having smelly poop.. I actually had to block his vision of the other frogs QT enclosure because he keeps trying to eat crickets through the glass..

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    Oh my god.... Can you ask them for a pic and send it to me, that is ridiculous, seriously, zoologist? There are pics all over VIN of parasites if they never dealt with frog before...
    I mean how long are they doing this test? The test itself probably took them an hour all together, including time needed to take microscope out of storage room and clean every single part of it lol everything else is plain dragging time.
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    Alright. I get the feeling this is going to cost me way more than what Dr. Frye would have charged, which from his email is not much at all. I think regardless and to just expedite this situation, when the frogs poop again I am mailing it to Dr. Frye -- this is taking too long and every day my frog is getting a little worse.

    I'm actually a little surprised at this point. Their website stated they did deal with reptiles, I would wager the parasites of a lizard or snake vs a frog wouldn't be completely alien to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpmistr View Post
    Alright. I get the feeling this is going to cost me way more than what Dr. Frye would have charged, which from his email is not much at all. I think regardless and to just expedite this situation, when the frogs poop again I am mailing it to Dr. Frye -- this is taking too long and every day my frog is getting a little worse.

    I'm actually a little surprised at this point. Their website stated they did deal with reptiles, I would wager the parasites of a lizard or snake vs a frog wouldn't be completely alien to them.
    I think this is a good idea.
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    Yes, that is a bit ridiculous. I'd just send one to Dr. Frye. He'll help you much sooner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatheranne View Post
    Yes, that is a bit ridiculous. Is just send one to Dr. Frye. He'll help you much sooner.
    Going to check the QT tank tonight for poop and mail it off. I don't think I can get 3-5 samples from this frog. He is hardly eating though he has access to crickets and waxworms he simply will not eat either. Hopefully I will find some feces tonight to mail off. Poop from the other frog should not be a problem. I am finding at least one a day.

    I worry he may be declining faster than anticipated. I am keeping them fairly warm, mid 80s, not sure what more I can do without meds.

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    Michael do you know when ....... was the last time he ate?
    Did I read "one cricket a day" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Michael do you know when ....... was the last time he ate?
    Did I read "one cricket a day" ?
    He last ate yesterday, a single cricket. He has maybe eaten 4 crickets in 3 days, I've tried waxworms but he did eat maybe 2 of them so far but not recently. He does not like to take food from the tongs, if I take everything out of the enclosure he may hunt them down, but his interest in food has dramatically dwindled since I purchased him a few weeks ago. Tried to feed tonight, he has no interest in food, period.

    There are no feces in his enclosure tonight so I have nothing to send Dr Frye tomorrow, unless something happens tonight.

    I am really worried now, if he stops eating and there are no feces to test and I cannot get medication then he may be in serious trouble. The local vet was supposed to email me tonight test results from whomever they gave the test to, they never emailed me back.

    I don't want to be an alarmist but it does not look good.

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    Both frogs left me a present this morning, I have shipped these to Dr Frye. Hurray!

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    Yay! Did you ever think you'd be happy to find poo? Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Yay! Did you ever think you'd be happy to find poo? Lol


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    I was actually pretty happy to see that poop. Hopefully Dr. Frye can work with 1 sample from each frog, luckily I can ship stuff from my work so I should have it there by Thursday.

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    Nothing can beat excitement of finding a poop! Only frog people can understand that though lol
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    Hey, I am always thrilled to find poop, no matter the species! It means: the animal is eating, digestive system has not shut down, I can now run a fecal test if I need one, and I can evaluate the state of the poop to as a proxy for animal health.

    ... Well, I kind of work with a lot of poop, from a lot of different animals. Still! It's not just frogs, I promise you.

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