I was wrong....

[LilyPad]

I have had my grey tree frogs Paddy, Willow, and Silvermist for 3 years. I was 100% certain Paddy was a female. She is the biggest grey that I've seen to date at over 2.5 inches in length. Silvermist is just over 2 inches, and Willow is about exactly 2 inches.

Over the years, I've been unsure of Willow's sex. I initially thought she was male and named her Oscar. She's never called though, and I changed my mind and assumed she was female. Sometimes I doubt that deduction.

Silvermist was another that I was sure was female. Shes pretty big, although not very big next to Paddy. In the 3 years that I've had her, she's never once called.

I have never cycled my greys. It was a shock to find Atlas (100% sure male) in amplexus with Paddy one morning because they've never gone through a cycle. In winter, I do shorten their light cycles, feed a little less often, and keep the temps slightly cooler. I did NOT do this with Atlas, he was still in a hospital tank for part of the winter, trying to get him into good health and allow him to catch up in size with my girls. I have never done the cycle listed in breeding articles in order to get them to breed.

Tonight, I went to take the feeding dish out of the tank, and found this....



That is SILVERMIST in amplexus with Paddy. Silvermist has never once called, not in response to Atlas or my old male, Leggy. I'm assuming that a female isn't going to go into amplexus with another female and I was incorrect on the sex? Why would she have never called then? It also leaves me wondering if my instincts on Willow being a male were correct...



Last time Paddy and Atlas were in amplexus for more than 24 hours, I moved them into a 10g tank with a few inches of water. They both completely freaked out and broke apart, I never found them in amplexus again. At that time, I only had a small water dish in the tank. Now I have a pond area with about 2 gallons of water in it, 4 1/2 inches deep. Will they lay if I leave them in there?

Actually kind of frustrated because I do not want to deal with eggs or breeding, but I also do not want Paddy to end up egg bound. I have read a lot of conflicting things about whether or not frogs and toads can get egg bound, and I'd really rather not take the risk. She's pretty fat and I thought she was getting overweight, but I'm going to guess that she's gravid considering this is the second time I found her in amplexus, and her not kicking them off.

[Mentat]

Myself would just leave them in their tank and if they breed, deal with it then .

[kueluck]

Well I know from experience toads can become egg bound, and it was fatal. That's how I lost Rosie. Typically the frog will resorb the eggs and there's no need to worry about it. And I agree w/Carlos. Just let it take it's course and IF you do end up with eggs, you can always help boost the population in the wild.

[LilyPad]

Yeah, I will take your advice from the last thread and dump them in the pond out back . Still in amplexus, no eggs though, Paddy is carrying her 'sister' all over the tank.

[ColleenT]

Is there any good way to sex Gray tree frogs? I have a tadpole ready to get his front legs and a froglet/frog. they are young, so i assume i'd have to wait until they are older. So i am guessing i can keep them in the same enclosure if they are similar sized?