1000+ questions :)

[Mentat]

Water, water, go this way... not that way, this way... I SAID THIS WAY !!! Whatever !

[Lija]

We shall see lol usually im good at convincing things do my way lol i have a plan and back up plan and if both dont work oh well

another q. It seems titebond 3 is not available here, unless i order. I dont have patience to wait for couple + weeks. So what titebond can be substituted with?
im not exactly sure i want to do sillicone.

[Lija]

Are you pressing something over the glue or silicone? Peat, coco fiber, anything? If so keep in mind any bit of water that gets on it will slowly wick it's way across your background. If you are going to press anything into the top cover layer I would leave the area around the waterfall clear and cover that space with moss.

This needs to be clarified for challenged people who doesnt speak tanks. Yet
what does this mean exactly.?

[deranged chipmunk]

We shall see lol usually im good at convincing things do my way lol i have a plan and back up plan and if both dont work oh well

another q. It seems titebond 3 is not available here, unless i order. I dont have patience to wait for couple + weeks. So what titebond can be substituted with?
im not exactly sure i want to do sillicone.

You can use gorilla glue (really messy and nasty) or Elmer's wood glue.



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[Lija]

That one? "Probond Max" Wood Glue | RONA

found titebond, of course same store that is far and used to have black foam. i think ill just go and get it,
q - what size if the bottle do i need to cover area of my tank. 947ml? Home Hardware - Titebond

[deranged chipmunk]

The probond would work fine. I have no freaking clue how much 947ml is (whacko metric people!!), but I would buy 2 small bottles to start with.


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[DigitalPunk]

I bought 1 of the bigger bottles back 4 tanks ago and still have some left in it. lol and wtf is a ml? :P

[Lija]

Lol the majority of people in a world use metric system, that makes non metric people whacko, not the other way around

that bottle is about a quarter of a gallon - yay? Oh no?

Paul i love measurement of how many tanks ago .

[Mentat]

Gentlemen... a milliliter is one thousand of a liter ! So that 947ml bottle is almost a liter and the next one up is a gallon or 4x as much. Think next one up is a 5 gallon pail and that one is a bit of an exaggeration for our needs . Lija, I get them by liter bottle; but my source is 5 min. drive away. If planning to build more tanks or redo others, that gallon bottle might be the way to go. Good luck !

[Lija]

Thank you Carlos! Glad there is somebody to teach these two lol
i will get a that 1l bottle then, i just need it for my current tank. Anything bigger would be admitting im screwed and am planning on other builds lol which i am not.... Not at all...

[Lija]

Oh the q - will titebond adhere to already done silicone/coco background to fix if needed?

[DigitalPunk]

If there is exposed silicone it will not stick to it.

You may want to get 2 bottles of it. You will most likely end up needing more to cover up spots that are a bit thin after the first coat.

[deranged chipmunk]

I've really gotta close that Facebook account lol


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[Lija]

Bill, nowhere to hide from me lol just sayn

plan for today to test waterfalls in both tanks and cover background if time permits and if dry enough.

[deranged chipmunk]

Yay!!


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[Lija]

Ok people major problem here, im putting everything on hold for now. It is possible the tank is leaking. It was with water for 2 days and i see quite a bit now around the edges. It wasnt here yesterday, so it is also possible it splashed today from connector ( i saw it). Right now im draining it, checking the bottom, drying everything, filling it up again to test it for leaks again. Damn it i should have done it before i started everything.

Anyhow. If it is leaking how to waterproof it now? I can silicone it from outside around the bottom and edges. Yes? No? Any other ideas?

[deranged chipmunk]

No. The internal silicone would need to be removed and reapplied. Silicone on the outside would hold it for a little while, but it's only a band aid. Eventually water will seep behind that silicone and leak.


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[Lija]

How to remove internal sillicone?

[deranged chipmunk]

Razor blade. Slice it off. You won't be able to get the stuff between the glass, inside the seam, but a new bead should hold it. The downside is, you may have to reseal the entire tank since silicone won't bind to silicone. I would make sure it's leaking first, then if it is, call your tank builder and express your displeasure nicely (flies and honey darlin ) and see what he'll do for you.


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[DigitalPunk]

ugh that sucks! Yeah I would do what you are doing. Drain, Dry the outside and then refill and watch it. Sometimes water can run down the glass and into the frame on the bottom then when weight is added to the tank the glass presses on the frame and squeezes water out. Hope it isn't a leak.