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    It is not good! I was kinda hoping it is nothing and he just refused to waste his energy on tiny prey like crickets, but that is not the case, he is severely malnourished, stunted and toxic out. I bet he is no more then 2", am i right? we will try to fix it. It is too late now to go buy anything, so that is what you need to do today.
    Take him out of his cage asap, place him in a water bath. Do you have unflavoured pedyalite? If you do add it to his water bath 5 parts of water, 1 part of pedyalite. Water should be warm, no higher then frogs chin. Keep him in there for 20 min. While doing so, take everything out of the cage, disinfect it and put in exo earth (plantation soil). Do not mix it with anything. If you dont have that today, just plain wet papertowels will work until tomorrow. Add artificial plants if you have any, if not anything he can hide under, cover 3 sides of the tank with anything not see through.
    that would be it for today, i will reply what is next tomorrow, gotta go now.
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    I'll add to what Lija started; but please do read this care guide since your frog's life depends on it: Frog Forum - Pacman and Horned Frogs - Ceratophrys - Care and Breeding.

    Never use any kind of plant fertilizer or any chemicals in a frog enclosure! Shredded coco substrate should be mixed with dechlorinated tap water until slightly damp and clumps in fist without dripping water out. It should be spot cleaned as required and changed (all of it) monthly. Plants can be kept in pots with ABG soil only and really are not recommended with Pacmans because the frog will trample them. A silk plant is all you need in there.

    Your enclosure is huge and could be stressing out the frog. For a Pacman less than 3 in. a 5 gal. tank is more than enough. Only thing needed in there is the substrate, dechlorinated tap in water dish (changed daily), and a silk plant.

    Get a digital thermometer and hygrometer so you can adjust the temperature to 82-84F day time with a few degrees drop at night. This is very important because Pacman's exposed to cold temps can develop permanent kidney and lymph heart damage. The humidity should be between 70-80%. You can heat the tank with a 60W Ceramic Heat Emitter on a dome with a dimer you can control or use a thermostat. Or can also use a red incandescent bulb of a wattage that will get you those temps. If required, can use aluminum foil to cover most (I cover my whole top and cut out a hole for light fixture just making it 1 in. bigger all around) to help keep heat and humidity in.

    In it's condition, the unflavored Pedialyte 80F bath (or similar baby electrolyte) Lija mentioned can be very good. You can try feeding the night crawler after returning frog to it's cleaned out enclosure. For frogs smaller than 3 in. you can cut the worm from pointy end same length as frog. If frog does not eat, then let us know. Force feeding a nutritious mix might be required. Crickets should be sized same or smaller than distance between frogs eyes and gut loaded with carrots, lettuce, and cherios cereal. The staple food should be the night crawlers, not the crickets. Hope this helps and good luck !
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    Right i didnt noticed the dimensions of the tank

    So Carlos had covered husbandry.
    Ill do vet part. You will need to do water baths with pedialyte for at least 3-4 days, you need to flush toxins out. You will also need to get reptiboost and use it, you can coat nightcrawlers with it or even crickets if he refuses worms, but just to feed reptiboost, for a food use inly nightcrawlers. They have the best ca/d balance and easy digestible.
    See how it is going, you will most likely need to force feed critical care formula, but if he eats nightcrawlers it is not needed. Yet.
    Pls update us how it is going, we might suggest different game plan accordingly.
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    I cleaned his tank And disinfected it. I also put him on moist paper towels and covered his viv almost entirely with a towel. I have a thrmostat and a temp-Gun. For the substrate, do i change it once a month while in this condition or is that in general?

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    That is in general, you need to change it every month, but wet papertowels you need to change every day.
    you will also need to get ca/vitd3 powder (every second feeding) and multivitamin powder ( once a week or less depending on how often he eats), but that is later, now you need reptiboost +feed him as much as he can eat every single day.

    I also think fecal exam would be a good idea to do.
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    I gave Frank His pedialyte bath tonight. After his bath i tried feeding him the crawlers but he didnt take it. I also tried to feed him a Reptaboost dusted cricket but he didnt take it unfortunatly.today i bought all his things for his new setup and he will be housed in a much smaller viv. Thanks alot guys God bless you.

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