Oh boy.....a-lot-a-leucs

[flybyferns]

Looks like I will be a little busy this fall raising these munchkins.

Found a big clutch a few days ago.
I will remove these from the main enclosure in a few days....
They are all wriggling but I've been waiting till the first free swimmer to move them out of the parental enclosure.



These were removed from the parental encl 6/29



Removed 4/19
Just starting to color up





Sorry for the topsy-turvy water-mark........photo uploading is a little funky lately ?

[LilyPad]

You are a busy lady! Congrats on another clutch! I love watching the progression of these little guys.

Photo uploading has been a pain on my end too.

[deranged chipmunk]

Sweet! Lynn is like the tadpole queen! Lol


Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

[flybyferns]

Amy,
Actually, I lost a few in each of the first 2 clutches shown here.
I increased the frequency of Repashy Vit A to 2 times monthly / from once a month > for the parents.
Looks like it may have helped.

Bill..... maybe in those - stupid - bean beetles ?

They are harder to raise than imitators and pumilio. Maybe, just me?
Pumis are simple,... you really don't do anything at all ! Just watch and take good care of the parents !

When the leuc tads are free swimming (free from the egg gel ) ---they are removed to the separated containers.
During that 1 week or so ----they look dead. They don't move.. ..they just sit there.
The only way I know they are still alive is to see a change in their size.

[DigitalPunk]

Awesome Lynn!

I always had issue uploading photos to the site. I ended up creating a photo bucket account and linking them here that way.

Is the vitamin A something that is recommended be given to all frogs 1 or 2 times a month? I am hoping that my M. Betsileo, Reds, Azureus, and Vents all breed. I will most def be adding to my frogs and getting various different types and want to make sure I am doing what is needed to put my little frogs in the best shape to breed.

Thanks


Lynn they look awesome!

[flybyferns]

Like all of us, I do so much reading and studying. We thoroughly understand how important nutrition and vitamin supplements are, especially for darts that are "calling" , mature, and set for breeding. I feed and dust daily. I'm springtail crazed too (the springs are very important ! ) There just can NEVER be enough springs.

I was previously adding Vitamin A ( Rapashy ) once a month. About 4 months ago I increased it to bi-monthly for the 'breeding adults' only; having read this suggestion on several occasions.

This is a little tricky for the pumilio as it seems they always have froglets in the enclosure. I make sure to get the Vit A in their enclosure when I transfer froglets to the grow-out tank. They are doing well . Their last clutch was 6 ...nice size.

Paul , You would enjoy pumis ---- they are easy to keep. I really don't know what all the commotion is about? I suppose the froglets are more sensitive. The are very similar to imitators. My biggest challenge is keeping the stupid broms happy... I hate broms My other species of darts don't need them- thank goodness. I have had to force myself to learn about them

As well, I have been more diligent about giving the larger species bean beetles? (I don't give them to the imitators or the pumilio).
I really don't know if they have made a difference; more likely the Vit A. But, they do get a few weekly.

Can't remember where, but I recall recently reading something about removing the Fr Fl larvae/rinsing it/ and putting into the enclosure. I sort of do this. I feed the darts ( place the fr fl ) in the VERY same spot every day. I bury ( now and again) a very small pc of banana peel of banana under the soil there. I have seen larvae several times . This is an issue however; I culture 3 species of fr flies! Not fun when they start taking flight There have been times my 'flightless" fr flies were flying around the enclosure after interbreeding in there! This has happened at least three times in the imitator enclosure having mixed turkish gliders and melanogaster.

[DigitalPunk]

Thanks Lynn, I still have sometime before my frogs reach breeding age, just absorbing all the info i can between now and then.

[Happy Frog]

Good going..Isn't it a neat surprise to find new eggs, especially Leucs. They are such a hardy species. Mine start calling first thing in the morning when the light comes in and I never get tired of hearing them.

[Bombina Bob]

Congrats Lynn!

[flybyferns]

Congrats Lynn!

Thanks Ryan

Here they are last night / removed from their individual glasses.



This a shoe bin sitting ( tipped) in a 10 gallon aquarium. It has
distilled water/ pieces of indian almond leaves, java moss , gravel, sphag, and of course tad food.
I threw some springtails in--- of which are hanging around on the sphag and floating on the water?

I just took a look a few minutes ago--- 4 of the 5 have -------both fronts.
As they come out---I'll put them on the wet paper towel - in this same enclosure - outside the shoe bin - so they can feed
( hopefully ) on their first bites of dusted fruit flies.

From there ( at least 2 weeks later ) they will go into a grow-out tank ( drilled for drainage) w/ a standard lightly planted/ layer substrate bottom enclosure.

I purchased 3 of the 10 gallon aquariums at the the last $1 sale. I finally got brave ----and drilled them myself ! I purchased 3 screen lids and used aquarium sealant to add the glass to the inside of the lid ( so the darn FF don't escape, the humidity will be remain perfect for them, and they can't climb out ) I use really junky glass- on purpose--- so as much light passes through as possible. I find the cheapest ( always on sale !!!! ) plastic frames w/ glass > toss the frame and use the glass. This is much, much cheaper than getting it from the 'glass guy'.

I'll add the photo of this grow-out again when the are all oow ( out of water! ) They will be a few days apart! There is one that will probably come oow this weekend? It's important to make sure they have this easy access to 'land'. ie the sphagnum moss. They are really ready...they are all acting like little froggies. I love to watch them come to the surface of the water to take a breath and then retreat back into the water. They're practicing

[Mentat]

... This is a little tricky for the pumilio as it seems they always have froglets in the enclosure. I make sure to get the Vit A in their enclosure when I transfer froglets to the grow-out tank. They are doing well . Their last clutch was 6 ...nice size....

Congrats on your Leucs babies Lynn and thank you for all the nice info ! So from reading the above, the vitamin A would be bad for the froglets?

[flybyferns]

Congrats on your Leucs babies Lynn and thank you for all the nice info ! So from reading the above, the vitamin A would be bad for the froglets?

Thanks Carlos

Vit A ---- I don't want to over-do-it ?
So, I have refrained from adding it to the pumilio enclosure when the froglets are ( in the parental tank ) growing-out.
I feed ( alternate ) three other supplements, so I'm sure they are getting what they need.
As soon as they are moved - this breeding pr get their Vit A.

There is enough time in between clutches to supplement them.

The breeding adults do need it. IMO your imis are old enough to have it once a month.
( especially since your M is calling ) He knows something you don't know

I wish Repashy and RepCal would make smaller containers of supplements !
Their sup. containers are large enough to supplement an army of frogs !
I can't tell you how many times I have tossed 1/2 full containers
It's such a waste of $$$$ I get rid of them after 3 months. grrrrr

[DigitalPunk]

I thought the supplement containers were good for 6 months... Not 3


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[flybyferns]

I thought the supplement containers were good for 6 months... Not 3


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Hi Paul,
I date the lid and toss between and 3-6 months.
I never use them a full 6 months.

This is actually a good project.
I think I'll send both Repashy and Rep-cal an email?

Or, at the very least, lets's poke around both sites to see if there is any 'statement' from either manufacture.
If you should find something before me , please start a 'new threw' so the information doesn't get lost in this leuc thread.

Lets see what their current recommendations are.
I'll share any responses in a new thread as well.

[flybyferns]

The entire clutch of 5 is oow except for one.
They keep coming! No one told me about that

[deranged chipmunk]

Oh they are adorable Lynn!!!


Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

[DigitalPunk]

Aw Congrats!

[Strider18]

Very pretty frogs Btw, what do you do with your froglets? I would be interested to know what people do when they have 5+ froglets or more.

[flybyferns]

Very pretty frogs Btw, what do you do with your froglets? I would be interested to know what people do when they have 5+ froglets or more.

I find a friend ! , or hopefully sell them at a show
I certinally can't keep them.

[flybyferns]

3 more of this same clutch of 5 froglets

I love when they finally loose that "mushy' first oow thing.
That stage is nerve racking







These are standard D leucomelas......they will get more spots as they mature.
They are off spring from my group of 5:
3 from Tim Heath
2 from Black Jungle
Wow- how time flies !