Oh boy.....a-lot-a-leucs

[tonyball]

Hi Lynn, congratulations on your success! I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I have 3 groups of 5 leucs in separate enclosures and have males calling in each group (everyday) but have had only one batch of 3 eggs in over several months . all frogs are extremely healthy and get fed every day. A few people I have talked to say their leucs breed like crazy in environments similar to mine but I am not having much luck, also I mist the enclosure everyday. any ideas as to what might be keeping them from producing?

[flybyferns]

Hi,
Very sorry to be so slow in answering.

My leuc group ( 2 females and 3 meals) took a very long time to get going. They were 1 1/2 years old.
They called for several months before their first batch(s).
They have deposited eggs -ONLY- in a glass petri dish / covered by a coconut hut, despite other available places.

Their tank is very heavily planted - with lots of breaks.
I believe I just put a current pic of their enclosure their album here on FF.
Or you can see it on facebook ( Fern's Frogs)

They are NOT good parents. I have had 6 or 7 clutches.
I witnessed one male transporting one tad despite plenty of places and choices for transport to water; despite there being others ready to be moved. Could certainly be my fault?

IMO -- they are much more difficult to breed than my R imitator 'Varadero'. There is no comparison with parenting skills/desires when comparing these 2 species. The leuc tads are sensitive--- I loose some in each batch - and at different stages of tadpole development.

I leave the eggs in the dish / in the tank. I move them to a glass container ( with distilled water/ a dime size pc of indian almond leaf /and some java moss) I move them ----- one at a time ( form the parental tank) as they become free swimmers. This seems to have reduced tad calamities However, they are getting Repashy Vit A 2 X a month and bean beetles. I plan on starting flour beetle cutlers as well as parental nutrition so important

I'm sure the answer is simple. Probably just too young ? You have been successful with other species - so your success w them should be no different.

What supplements are you using?

Best

[MatthewM1]

Congrats on all the babies Lynn. I never really understood the fascination with darts untill I was face to face with a little leuc at an expo, ill get around to setting up a beautiful planted Viv for a pair eventually. Just need to get my spider addiction under control first

[flybyferns]

Congrats on all the babies Lynn. I never really understood the fascination with darts untill I was face to face with a little leuc at an expo, ill get around to setting up a beautiful planted Viv for a pair eventually. Just need to get my spider addiction under control first

Matt,
I feel sorry for you.
TWO addictions !!! frogs and spiders.
Feel better ---- you know what you have to do:

[MatthewM1]

Haha my girlfriend has told me I need to be on a tarantula episode of hoarders, went from 0 to 24 in 11 months. I'm planning on starting breeding in the next year or so, so my herp wish list is put on hold untill I see how much time/ space I have left after I have a couple hundred spiderlings to care for and ship out.

[flybyferns]

Haha my girlfriend has told me I need to be on a tarantula episode of hoarders, went from 0 to 24 in 11 months. I'm planning on starting breeding in the next year or so, so my herp wish list is put on hold untill I see how much time/ space I have left after I have a couple hundred spiderlings to care for and ship out.

Enjoy
I guess , at least, they don't take up as much room ?
The area you live ..... is so "country".
Can you catch insects for them , or is is still too risky?

We have a great 'family re-treat' in the Catskills. ( Gilboa - Schoharie County )
I have always been so tempted (for the frogs) --- but I just don't know enough the about the insects

[MatthewM1]

No they don't take up quite as much room. Especially the babies. I've currently got about 2 shelves on a rack filled so far. I have mostly babies and juveniles currently. My one adult I had was a male and he's currently making his rounds with several females out in Cali.

I still consider it too risky. Parasite risk is always present, and with the amount of farms around here who knows what kind of fertilizers and other chemicals they could have come in contact with.

Between all the roaches I've got and occasional meal/ Superworms and crickets from my LPS I've got all the food I could need and then some lol

[ToadPaparazzi]

Have you tried using just Repashy Calcium+? I only supplement Repashy Calcium+ for my darts and have been doing it that way for about 3 years. All frogs are producing strong and healthy offspring. The calcium+ has plenty of vitamin A and even has the stuff from superpig in it... It's an amazing all-in-one supplement.

[flybyferns]

Have you tried using just Repashy Calcium+? I only supplement Repashy Calcium+ for my darts and have been doing it that way for about 3 years. All frogs are producing strong and healthy offspring. The calcium+ has plenty of vitamin A and even has the stuff from superpig in it... It's an amazing all-in-one supplement.

Hello,

Thanks

Yes, actually I do
I use the Repashy Ca Plus 2 times a week.
Rec Cal 4 times a week
and rep-cal Vits once a week

I've always alternate these three 'different' products.

as well.... I dust with
Repashy Vit A tiwce a month for the adults

I will have to think about switching the frequency of the Repashy Ca plus ?

[ToadPaparazzi]

I feed daily using repashy calcium plus at every feeding...

[tinkgirl77]

Hey lynn, I just read over this thread and find it helpful but I just found my first clutch of eggs from my sips tonight and I'm kinda freaking a bit lol. They are still in quarantine! And laid a clutch of 6 eggs on their paper towels! I was totally surprised lol. Do you have a link or suggestions for a first time frog momma?

[DigitalPunk]

The only thing I dislike about Repashy Cal+ is that it is a "light" powder and does not slow the Fruit flies down at all. The straight Calcium with D3 is almost to heavy a powder.. Have been considering cutting the Cal+ with some Rep Cal with D3 to try and thicken it up some, but I am no scientist and will most likely leave that fancy stuff to people with brains worth more than mine

Lisa Grats on the Eggs! If this is their first clutch there is a high probability that they are not viable, but if they are you will want to be ready for when they hatch out into tads. I will try and find some information to share with you, but I am new to the tadpole side of things myself

[ToadPaparazzi]

Why would you want to slow the flies down?


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[tinkgirl77]

Thanks paul! Anything will be helpful. it looks like I may have 2 viable, I think (2 of 6 are darker in color)