OMG OMG OMG Grey Treefrogs Hyla versicolor

[Kurt]

Not sure that will help, as they are very hard to tell apart.

[tattooed81]

Hyla versicolor it is a Hyla versicolor took him to a herpetologist he identified him I thought it was Hyla versicolor

[tattooed81]

heres a idea

[Kurt]

heres an idea

What's the idea?

[tattooed81]

notice the yellow copes don`t have that do they anyway Denny down at Off The Ark exotic pet store is a herpetologist and he says it is defiantly Hyla versicolor

[Kurt]

I don't think the yellow flash colour is versicolor specific. John, care to weigh in on this?

[tattooed81]

here another. And I trust Denny he is an expert. I wish i had went to college to be a herpetologist he also said that cope`s can not be found in Richmond

[John]

You cannot visually tell these species apart from each other. Anyone who tells you that you can is frankly talking out of their *** - it's a myth. In fact, there are papers published on trying to discern these two species using physical characteristics and the only one that found anything discernible was one that measured body proportions (like length of one bone in proportion to another, etc, within each frog species) and they found that they could tell the frog species apart correctly a little more than half the time.

I've seen other people say one species it not as bumpy as the other, or one is greener than the other, etc - it's all bogus. I am lucky in that I collected my frogs personally from an area where I found Hyla chrysoscelis absent. Kurt is in a similar situation - only H. versicolor is present.

For what it's worth, if your frogs sound _exactly_ like the call you posted a link to here then it is probably Hyla versicolor and not Hyla chrysoscelis. The problem is that H. chrysoscelis' call is just a faster and higher pitched version of H. versicolor's, and temperature slows down and lowers the pitch of both calls.