Anyone heard of designer frogs.com

[clayton1089]

Was wondering if anyone has heard of them or have bought frogs through them because I noticed they had good prices and was thinking of buying from them but wanted some opinions first. Thanks in advance!

[DigitalPunk]

I looked into them several months ago and found nothing but bad things about them. You will be better server to either go to a Reptile show in your area or buy online from one of the more reputable breeders.

Joshs Frogs

LLL Reptile

Mike Novy

Forum members who are selling their Dart off spring.

are the ones I know.

[TAPDart91]

I ordered from them. Idk my frogs are fine but what the above is saying dont sound good. I just liked their prices. And was my first frog buy

[TAPDart91]

Josh's frogs looked promising. I visited their sight trying to deside where to go.

[DigitalPunk]

Josh and LLL are both great. I have ordered form both sites and got some very healthy frogs.

[TAPDart91]

I bought six frogs from desinger frog and it has been 2 months. They are all eating and active. Only two of my six are still a little skiddish. And yes price and being new to the hobby are what caused me to choose them. But my frogs where delivered. Safe n sound

[DigitalPunk]

The issues i heard about (and they are what I was told not first hand) is that they in correctly identify their frogs and do false advertising. They have changed their name 3 or 4 times in the last 1 - 2 years. They just got a bad rap so I steered clear of them. I don't think anyone will crucify anyone over where they buy frogs

but thank you for letting us know you got some from them and they are all healthy. Positive reviews are good for members to see

[TAPDart91]

Yeah I am very new to all of this. And with a kid I know a budget so I figured I would atleast let them know i chose that rout and it seems to be okay so far. Also in my research before purchasing I noticed that their frogs seem to be classified about the same as everywhere els with the scientific term available as well as a sorta main stream commercial name. But yes like you said I dont think it matters to much. Though josh's frogs has more of a selection and surien does aswell.

[TAPDart91]

I see you have used Josh's Im certain I will to at some point. For me its about availability as well as pricing and a healthy animal. I seeb that Josh's. Has an awesome selection. Ill have to give LLL a look. Are they reasonable with prices?

[DigitalPunk]

LLL is similar to Josh's frogs. I bought my Darts from Josh and my Mantellas from LLL.

[TAPDart91]

Well they are both high but not to bad. Certainly more of a selection then desingerfrog

[flybyferns]

Hi,
I have never purchased from DF
So, I have absolutely no idea as to their reputation or the health of their frogs, etc.
They have a very good guarantee. And yes ; their frogs are reasonably priced.

Personally, It bothers me that they re-name the species and claim the "name" is TM
I would love to know why they do this, as it just creates confusion ?

BE VERY CAREFUL THIS TIME OF YEAR
I don't know where you live?
It's hot. This is a tricky time of year to purchase a frog that has to be delivered.

This is how I have a frog shipped to me...if at all:
I pick up an OVERNIGHT delivery at my FedEx hub . This way I'm there when when the HUB opens.
If I'm told told it can not be sent that way--- I don't buy it.
You want to be - SURE - the delivery is protected from over-heating!!!! Ask questions !
I bring a frog safe container with well dampened paper towel on the bottom.
I carefully transfer the frog to re-hydrate the frog as quickly as possible !!!
You want the container to be large enough to get your hand into it so you can open the deli container safely.

[deranged chipmunk]

The issue with designer frogs, as I understand it, was that they sell hydrids and give them their own names. I'm not sure how much is true, but I would imagine there is a reason they have changed names so often.


Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

[clayton1089]

Well im wanting to get a sexed pair or proven pair of Azureus without paying the almost $300 which is why I was attracted to DF. I live in Washington state and there isnt very many shows around here or reptile shops. I mean I want to get good frogs but I kinda have a budget as well.

[derezzed]

Well im wanting to get a sexed pair or proven pair of Azureus without paying the almost $300 which is why I was attracted to DF. I live in Washington state and there isnt very many shows around here or reptile shops. I mean I want to get good frogs but I kinda have a budget as well.

You shouldn't have to pay $300 for a sexed/proven pair of Azureus... you can get proven pairs for closer to $200 and I've seen and sold sexed pairs in the $100-150 range. Keep an eye on the classifieds section of the forums.



As for the main topic here... Do NOT breed the frogs you have with frogs from other vendors. That is the big concern everyone has with these guys. You can't trust that what they are selling you is actually what they are selling you. With the renaming and hybrids that they have done... you could have a true Azureus or you could have a frog that was the result of an Azureus and another tinc breeding but just happens to look more like an azureus so they sold it that way since they weren't really able to sell their hybrids. The way they have changed their names and stories so many times makes it tough to believe them when they tell you what they are giving you. Everyone else in the PDF hobby does not want the muddied bloodlines they have to be mixed with the existing lines in the hobby. So, again... do NOT mix them with other breeders' frogs. Keep them isolated.

[Happy Frog]

Well im wanting to get a sexed pair or proven pair of Azureus without paying the almost $300 which is why I was attracted to DF. I live in Washington state and there isnt very many shows around here or reptile shops. I mean I want to get good frogs but I kinda have a budget as well.

Do the hobby a favor and stay away from these people. They blatantly admit to creating hybrids.

You say you are in WA state. Over on DB there is a experienced dart frogger named thedude who lives in WA. Sign up on there and send him a PM and ask him to give you some names of people in your state that raise and breed Azureus. There are a huge amount of dart frog breeders in your state. I'm sure he can give you the names of some reputable people. Unfortunately, I believe he only raises mostly thumbs, Pumilios and Variabilis.

[TAPDart91]

I personally would go with DF any questions after your purchase . You can email them for answers i was just informed that they mix all of there frogs bloodlines so they are not inbred or sibling frogs

[clayton1089]

Well I just wamt to make sure that I will be getting a decent pair that wont die after a few weeks or have any deformities. With the lower price it would sure be nice...

[Judy S]

there is a reason...and more information that you can read about in one sitting about this "business"---go to Dendroboard or Dart Den and read all about this company. They are appealing to the novice keeper and have questionable practices...

[deranged chipmunk]

Well im wanting to get a sexed pair or proven pair of Azureus without paying the almost $300 which is why I was attracted to DF. I live in Washington state and there isnt very many shows around here or reptile shops. I mean I want to get good frogs but I kinda have a budget as well.

Unfortunately, if you want a proven pair, then forget a budget. You are not going to find a proven pair of any species cheap. Even the least expensive species of darts command high pricing for proven pairs.


Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela