Oh thank you I have only recently moved them back into their normal viv after some necessary repair work they have all been very enthusiastic in checking it out I do not know of anything sharp I am always very fussy about that but I will look again my other half said he saw one of the frogs jump across the tank miss his footing and tumble to the bottom of course I have no way of knowing if it was this one! I have been trying to get hold of our Vet but she is out of the surgery until later and unfortunately I have to go out! I have found an antibiotic which was previously prescribed and wanted to know if I could use it previously we had sprayed the frogs but I think the Qtip idea is much better I was worried about spraying his face so I wont do that again I will do as you suggest hopefully my Vet will get back to me and confirm how often I should apply this. I hope I haven't done any damage spraying him Well thanks again fingers crossed he will be ok! Jay