Frog Suggestions?

[Kurt]

I have never seen a state restrict the keeping of frogs as much as Oregon does. Holy ****! Some of what's on that list is not likely to find its way into the American frog trade, period. In Massachusetts, there is only one frog on the restrictions list, the eastern spadefoot toad, Scaphiopus holbrookii holbrookii.

[adawinters]

Well, since you didn't want to take a chorus frog from the wild, I'm guessing you'd be happier with buying a captive bred (CB) frog than a wild caught (WC). This is shifting my vote to the red eyed tree frog, which is more likely to be CB than WC, and it is not on your state's listing of banned frogs (unless I missed it in my quick read-through.)

[1beataway]

Move out of Oregon. Move to New Hampshire. You'll be close to Scribbles and Kurt and eventually myself. What could be better?

[Lacey]

That's too bad about not being able to get Fire bellies. I think they would be perfect for you. I'm not too sure that RETF would be the best choice because they only chirp on rare occasions unless they are in a rain chamber. Also, they don't move around at all until it is completely dark. And during the day they are sleeping under the leaves so you don't even see them. For the most part.

[scribbles]

That's too bad.

[Jace]

That is really too bad that Fire-bellies are illegal in your area, as that was going to be my recommendation as well. They are amazing little toads. However, I have to say that maybe sticking with Pacific Chorus Frogs are your best bet. There are captive bred ones and if you have a couple of males and a few females together, you will hear beautiful songs everyday night. Best of luck in your decision!

[mel]

But Jace, if i have a male and several females together, won't I accumulate more frogs? I don't know if I want to take on breeding!

[mel]

Move out of Oregon. Move to New Hampshire. You'll be close to Scribbles and Kurt and eventually myself. What could be better?

While being closer to my new online frog friends has its appeal, I'm a native Oregonian and I love my tree-hugging-granola-eating-hybrid-driving-environment-loving-bicycle-riding-Libtard state. I've lived other places and came back to stay.

I'm not happy about the illegality of owning a Fire Bellied Toad, but I appreciate what our state has tried to do to regulate both irresponsible pet ownership and importation as well as the invasion of non-native species. Opossums, Nutria, American Bull Frogs - are all non-native and have done a great deal of damage to otherwise native populations, rendering some of them endangered. It's a shame that people don't think about these things.

[Kurt]

People don't unless they have too.

[Kurt]

But you can't keep alligators any more in NH.

[1beataway]

While being closer to my new online frog friends has its appeal, I'm a native Oregonian and I love my tree-hugging-granola-eating-hybrid-driving-environment-loving-bicycle-riding-Libtard state. I've lived other places and came back to stay.

I'm not happy about the illegality of owning a Fire Bellied Toad, but I appreciate what our state has tried to do to regulate both irresponsible pet ownership and importation as well as the invasion of non-native species. Opossums, Nutria, American Bull Frogs - are all non-native and have done a great deal of damage to otherwise native populations, rendering some of them endangered. It's a shame that people don't think about these things.

I was mostly teasing, but I have to say I respect what you said in your post. I wish people would think more before purchasing certain animals.

But you can't keep alligators any more in NH.

What?! Gosh, what a silly law!
One of my friends owns a gator. I don't think she should have it. And I thought it was pretty ridiculous to go to a reptile expo and see gators on sale ($50 each, or for an even better bargin, 5 for $225!).

[Kurt]

You can still buy them in Rhode Island!

Seriously, crocodilians do not make good pets, period. Especially for people who live in areas where it snows. They get too big and they are all ambush predators, some of which look upon humans as just another prey item. Even the dwarf caimans, Paleosuchus sp. are a handful and should not be kept by your average person.

[1beataway]

I also had a customer who was buying a snake for their youngest son, and their older son (who is maybe 10 or 12) was telling me all about his pet gator, and how he is going to raise it until it gets full-size, and then give it to a zoo. He was dressed in like safari attire.