Troubled Pacman

[GrifTheGreat]

What antibiotics?
Also are you housing him in a hospital setup?

Are you applying antibiotic ointment to the wound?

[akjelland]

Antibiotic is Amikacin which I apply topically once a day. He's not in a hospital setup- Dr said he would be fine in his tank as is. No ointment on the wound- its almost healed up now.

[Lija]

Well im strongly suggesting to change your vet asap. place your frog in hospital set up and stop using amikacin. Both things gotta be done asap. What form of amikacin are you using? Where are you applying topically? Do you know dosage?

Next - find vet who knows what s/he is doing. While looking get flamazin (silver sulfadiazine) cream, use that for the wound (if it is still there).
i dont see lumps, except the opened one, depending on a location and feel of them it might be lots of different things. Can you describe more? Im assuming hystopathology was never done? Do you know what did came out when vet open the lump?

[GrifTheGreat]

Amikacin is fine, but works best as an injection not a topical application. The cream that Lija mentioned is excellent for topical application. You could also ask if the Vet feels Zosyn as an injection would work because I feel it would.

[akjelland]

The dose is approx 0.37mg once daily. I've been applying it to his lower back. So the big lump that he cut into had been there for a couple days before I became concerned. It was firm but didn't appear red or painful. I took him out to clean the tank and I noticed that it had ruptured? I pressed on it with a moist q-tip and a small amount of white fluid came out. The Dr said that he found a little more of the same fluid but nothing else. The wound is almost healed but it's still a firm lump but no more discharge. The other lumps are on his back legs. They are small with a dark center. Those come and go but recently one has become larger and more white. I've stopped the antibiotics. What do I need for a hospital tank? Just moist paper towels in a critter cage? And no they didn't do histopath.

[akjelland]

These pictures are from today. I circled the little ones on his legs. There's also some strange pocketing above the lump that got cut open which didn't show up until after the antibiotics. A new Dr is in the works. Should hear back on Friday. Will try hospital setup and ointment in the mean time.

[Lija]

It looks like cysts of sorts, perhaps parasitic in nature, but again it is just picture. Hard to say, vet should offer you to do hystopathology, and/or possibly to do a culture, to see what is it exactly if he suspects bacteria. I wonder how old is a frog and if it had any contact with anything from outside, assuming it is cb. If it is in fact parasites ( most likely tapeworms) you most likely wont see it just like that by opening it, you need to do cytology on inside liquid and actually see their heads. They are too small to see without microscope.


amixacin is fine in a form you were using, but it is highly nephrotoxic, i would never suggest using for more then 10-14 days and only with sufficient fluid therapy ( water baths), that is why i suggested you stop using it, besides if antibiotics are working normally you will see it within 3-4 days, sometimes a week. If no better within this time frame it is indicator they are not working for your particular problem.


Yes hospital set up is wet paper towels on a bottom, that are changed every day, i would recommend to cover all 4 sides to minimize stress levels, put inside decor plastic plant to hide under, water bowl. Humidity, temp as usual.
I would also suggest to do a water bath with non flavoured pedyalyte and some diluted reptiboost. There is a specially formulated amphibian physiological solution that i use now, but it is a bit on expensive side to make and you need to order it through the vet, pedyalyte will work well too.
Have long had it been since he ate last?