My new Varadero

[limnologist]

Your frogs look amazing!

[Happy Frog]

Your frogs look amazing!

Thank you. They are really active. I figured they would be quite shy after the whole shipping process but the second I got them into their quarantine container they started jumping around all over the place. I can't wait till they get older and grow a little.

[flybyferns]

I was going to post something about my pending deal but I wasn't sure it was going to be a for sure thing. I had some problems on my end with PayPal.

Anyhow, I just received my frogs this morning and they are incredible. I am really happy with them and the deal I made. I bought four and they are offspring from UE. The frogs were pulled from three separate lines.

A family member ran off with my good camera so I'll have to post more pictures later. Here's what I have so far...

Thank you. They are really active. I figured they would be quite shy after the whole shipping process but the second I got them into their quarantine container they started jumping around all over the place. I can't wait till they get older and grow a little.

Hi Bryan,
Congratulations! What an exciting delivery.
Post more photos when you get a chance.

If you like the thumbnails ......you will really love the O pumilio. And they are NOT difficult to care for
The pumi froglets are a bit more fragile, but the parents make it easy.

Good for you.....as you , know young imis need QT ---for a while--to make sure they are eating their FF.
Give them plenty of sprintails. It's great to mix the lines. I have 2 breeding pair.....from 3 different sources ( all w/ lineage to UE)

I have been using 3 QT ( food safe) containers ( I make mini vivs) for grow-out . They work really great.

Warning....They are little Houdinis' . Escape artists.!!!!! The openings need ALARMS! They learn where things open and wait for their opportunity to escape! Check the doors , all openings, and around the rim of a regular aquarium before you open to feed! I only WISH I had someone to tell me this when I first got mine. I have had so many close calls. One actually escaped once. We had to rescue him from the support brackets of the rack. I nearly had a melt down. It was horrible , but had a happy ending. You have to develop a strict routine of knowing where they are BEFORE you open up

Enjoy !

[Happy Frog]

Warning....They are little Houdinis' . Escape artists.!!!!! The openings need ALARMS! They learn where things open and wait for their opportunity to escape! Check the doors , all openings, and around the rim of a regular aquarium before you open to feed! I only WISH I had someone to tell me this when I first got mine. I have had so many close calls. One actually escaped once. We had to rescue him from the support brackets of the rack. I nearly had a melt down. It was horrible , but had a happy ending. You have to develop a strict routine of knowing where they are BEFORE you open up

Enjoy !

I still haven't had a chance to take new pictures of them. These things are super fast and they are aware when the lid is taken off the enclosure and they try to jump out. I remember your post last year when you discussed your close call. If I recall correctly you found it in your lab coat that was about to go into the laundry.

I was thinking of separating them but I'm not sure I'm going to do it now. They are all eating and I haven't seen any aggression. I've got plenty of enclosures so that's not a problem. I just wish I knew what sex they were. There is a video on YouTube where the owner is keeping four nominant imitators together in a 18x18x24.

In your experience how hard is it to sex these guys?

Right now I'm concentrating on thumbnails and although there are a couple different types of Pumillio I'd like to have(Blue Jeans, Siquirres, and San Cristobal), but I want to focus on thumbnails for now. I've got some Tarapoto lined up and I'm still after Southern Variabilis and Intermedius/Chazuta. I still want to get Mint Terribillis but it's their size that's holding me back.

I'll try and get some better pictures up ASAP.

[LilyPad]

Warning....They are little Houdinis' . Escape artists.!!!!! The openings need ALARMS! They learn where things open and wait for their opportunity to escape! Check the doors , all openings, and around the rim of a regular aquarium before you open to feed! I only WISH I had someone to tell me this when I first got mine. I have had so many close calls. One actually escaped once. We had to rescue him from the support brackets of the rack. I nearly had a melt down. It was horrible , but had a happy ending. You have to develop a strict routine of knowing where they are BEFORE you open up

Enjoy !

I had that issue with my spring peepers!! Smart and quick little guys. I would have to count out every single one before I opened the tank so that I could watch for them. Their favorite spot was on the rim of the tank, so I put a thick layer of silicone around the rim so they would stop hiding there. I was so worried they were going to find a way to squeeze out, get hurt, or all escape at once LOL

[Happy Frog]

Here are those other pictures of my Varadero. I already have one of them calling. For a little frog they sure are loud.

[flybyferns]

Hi Bryan

They do have a surprisingly loud call for such a tiny frog!
They are entertaining and always busy.

Photo 4- upper photo -- looks to be a female ?
Photos 5 - lower portion of the photo - same frog - female ?

Enjoy them
Best, Lynn

[Happy Frog]

Hi Bryan

They do have a surprisingly loud call for such a tiny frog!
They are entertaining and always busy.

Photo 4- upper photo -- looks to be a female ?
Photos 5 - lower portion of the photo - same frog - female ?

Enjoy them
Best, Lynn

That is the same frog and I also suspect it as being a female. It is larger than the other ones and is a thicker, more robust-looking frog. Only one of the other ones I've seen calling. Right now I have three in the 12x12x18. The fourth one was smaller than the rest so I'm still keeping it in the quarantine container. I decided to move these three into the Exo Terra because they were going crazy inside the quarantine container.

Right now I'm keeping a close eye on them for aggression. People keep these thing differently with different types of success - pairs, trios, 4-5 in larger Exo Terra's. What do you think is best? I'm leaning towards keeping them as pairs but what happens if I end up with one female and 3 males? I decided to put those film canisters inside the viv while frogs are still young so they as they grow they will be used to seeing them in their environment. I have no idea if it matters to them.

One thing I recently found about them is that their color patterns can vary. Everything from looking like a Fantastica to the patterns of a Vent. What is your opinion on them and how they look?

Question: Usually when I post here I am using an Apple II IPad. Every computer I've had views images differently. When any of you click on those images does it go into a image window and is blown-up larger?