Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
Ugh.......Let me suggest that if you're going to post about feeding larger than recommended feeders do specify between experienced keepers and novices.

I'm going to have to say that it has nothing to do with inbred frogs. Any and all are subject to the follies of their species particularly the ingestion of prey items that are much to large to handle. Feeding prey that is in excess of the normal bounds for prey items places the frog indanger of death from organ damage or stomach rupture. Not only this, but many will vomit to remove prey that is too large and thus prolapsing their stomach which almost alway results in death.

Don't recommend for keepers to feed prey items thats size is in excess of what should be offered. To make recommendations like this is irresponcible and potentially harmful to a new keeper's experience with their pet. As I recall you fed your Gartersnake to your frog for the sole purpose of you didn't want to care for her anymore. A neglegent act that is ill advised and by no means for education purposes or fornthe benefit of your frog. She wouldn't eat so you fed her to your frog. I have no respect for people of that nature.

I have kept and studied cranwelli for the past 6 years, I have found that almost every single health problem from eating a large prey item is usually caused by stress, in-bred frogs, over-fed/under-fed, and runt frogs. A perfectly healthy, strong, normally sized frog can easily eat a large prey item. Also, there is no need to continually feed the frog large prey, I once again say that feeding large prey should be done for educational purposes, necsessity, and variety.

As for the garter snake, I have no idea why you would assume that 1. I owned the animal- 2. I fed it to the frog because I didn't want to care for it anymore-. The animal belonged to my neighbor, it was his first garter snake and it got out of its cage, his mother stomped it dead because she fears snakes. He wanted to see my frog in action so I said I would feed it the dead snake. I am very surprised that someone with your reputation and rank could make such assumptions and not be open to observing what this animal does naturally. People who become so offensive about pets are the people who used to deter me and many people I know from keeping pets and learning about nature and its abilities, treasures, wonders and gifts. Though it is not necessary to feed a pacman large prey, it IS what they were built for and it IS an amazing experience to watch it happen.