I am just seeing this now and CHINO you know this entire thread isn't what happened...... You left the frogs for 2 days in.the same small deli container that they were shipped in. Lazily you did not change them. If I recall correctly there was a large amount of humidity on the cups. Which would indicate the temps were atleast in the 80s. Frogs are not snakes. You cannot leave them in tubs for days and not clean or care for them...

I offered you half off on a replacement. You just would have to pay shipping. Those toads are live arrival guarantee. I have been doing this for quite a few years now and everyone that messes up and kills their frogs within the first few days makes up a story that doesn't match the picture. You killed that frog.

You then also tried to go back to paypal and get all of your money back. Which then you would be trying to rip me off. I usually work very well with people when frogs die and replace them as I see stories match the picture. However, when you come at me like an ******* demanding money back for something that you did..... That's where I am going to draw the line

Also, I am part of sAndfire. Those toads were posted on kingsnake.com at wholesale prices because there was a overload of them. Good luck finding them at $15.00 again. The retail value for albino Woodhouse is $30-$50.00 just depending on how well started the babies are

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I would like to write about my experience with Mike Matson (Mike’sPhat Frogs). On the morning of Wednesday May 7th, 2014 I placed anorder for two albino woodhouse toads, and one samurai blue cranwelli. Mike promptlyshipped on Thursday May 8th, 2014 and I received the package in themorning of Friday May 9th, 2014. I took them home and immediatelymoved them individually into larger (4”-5”) Dixie cups with plastic plants forthem to hide under. Mind you the toads were only about the size of a small cricket;these enclosures were quite large for them. I came home the next day to findone of the toads sprawled out dead, I moved the dead one into the sauce cupthat mike provided in case he would want me to ship it back. I contacted Mike, heasks for proof and I send it to him. He then moves on to accuse me of keepingthe toad in the original container that he shipped with, and blames the deathon me. Mike’s argument was that he kept lots of frogs/toads and none of themdie, so it must be my fault. I bought two toads, both kept in similar conditionsand one ups and dies. I just wanted Mike to right the situation, he pretty muchtold me to pay for another one. I have lots of experience raising baby frogsall the way into healthy large adult frogs. Mike not only was unprofessional,he even called me a moron. It was obvious to me I could not come to an agreementwith him…as he was not professional and rude. I filed for a claim on Paypal forthe dead toad. Mike messages me and tells me Paypal will side with him. I lateron called Paypal to see why they closed the claim, they stated that they do notdeal with disputes on livestock, no wonder he was so smug. This was the worstvendor I have ever dealt with and I will never ever deal with him again. Also http://www.sandfiredragonranch.com/sells the same albino toads for only $15 dollars each. I gave Mike plenty ofchances to rectify the situation, but he resorted to name calling and immature tactics. Enjoy my $35 Mike, I hope it makes youRICH!