It sounds like one may have brain damage, the one that turns in circles. If you do manage to force feed him, you will likely have to do it for the rest of his life. The one that just lays there does not sound like he is gonna make it very long at all. I had to force feed my frog once, it is not an easy task. Do you have a medicine dispenser, like the ones they give you at the pharmacy for a baby's meds? It is a tube with a plastic plunger and some times has a rubber covered end to make it slide easier. Anyway, if you have one of these it will be easier to force feed them. Mask up the crickets very well, almost liquid, and fill the tube up with the cricket paste. You will have to likely have your daughter help you open the frogs mouth, and they will fight it. Make sure you have a firm grip on the frog, don't let it wiggle out of your hands but don't squish the little guy either. To do this gently wedge a smooth thin object between the top and bottom jaw. You can use a tooth pick or anything similar. After you get the frogs mouth open, quickly insert the feeding tube into the frogs mouth and squeeze about a crickets worth of food into his mouth. You will have to let him close his mouth to swallow and then you have to do it all over again. It is not fun or easy, but when you love your pets enough, you are willing to do anything to save them. I am sorry for your troubles and I wish you the best of luck with your injured frogs. Let your daughter read this as well so she can help you to take care of the little guys. Best Wishes; MsBlueRose.