HELP! white patches underside, Pipa pipa

[Ratz]

Hello,

60 liter is not much water... I hope they get a larger enclosure after finishing quarantine. You have to take good care about water quality, especially when you feed dead feeders! Maintaining water quality works in the same way as for Aquarium fishes. It is very important to keep N- metabolites like Nitrate and Ammonium and the microbe load on a low level.

How often do you change the water?

[Ted]

60l or 15 gal is fine for 1 frog,a20gal for a pair.now I'm a stickler for water quality ,but with frogs that are garbage cans,this can be challenging.ive found even 25% changes a day isn't enough.so I've come up with my double tank system.i use 2 , 15 gal tanks .both have identical heaters,identical aged water.my substrate are washed silk leaves.the frog is in one tank.the other tank has filtered water in it.i bring it up to heat and then add some of the aged leaves.this sits for 5-7 days,until the frog tank is soiled,then I take the frogs substrate, move it to the clean tank,take a pot with original water in it plus frog,and transfer him to the other tank.now I clean and repeat process to the other tank.one week he's in one tank and the other week the second tank.i just keep toggling him between tanks.this works well for me,and works good for frog ..I should also mention that the tanks are only half filled with water ..

[Ratz]

Hi,

my thought was that with 100 liter or more, some plants, snails against the "garbage" and a decent biological filter, the water quality is much more stable. I made good experiences with Typhlonectes in such a setup.
But your system sounds also great and is even better for the thread starter as he has some health problems with his animals.

[Ted]

My system works good,but it's not a setup to,show off to your friends ,or like a zoo display piece.its just a method for long term life support.to balance the load,and I'm still thinking about this all the time.,I might need a 125 gal with a big canister,but there's the space issue,also ,you have a very inactive frog Ina huge tank.2 tanks on a double iron stand takes up little room.now I might go for the 125 sometime,but I also have a space issue right now myself.besides the fact that "moving water "over these frogs causes stress and disease and they prefer still water,from what little I can look up..you don't need plants and snails...

[Ratz]

I think there is no need for a zoo display - like setup, even though it would look nice... as long as the needs of the frogs are fulfilled, everything is good. And the space issue is a serous one, I know that well from my 18m² student room

Just hope the thread starter can save his frogs with adapting his setup, the right temperature and water quality are essential.