HELP! white patches underside, Pipa pipa

[Fabrizio]

I could chop them in two, they stay moving anyhow.
I notice he's less reactive than female, and stays for minutes when I put him upside down, before turning right... I'm worried he could be weakened
-Trying to ''force'' feed a de-frozen fish, or chopped earthworm?
-In the case he has got some skin fungus, a mild methilene blue bath could be done?
-What dosage (I have powder, not solution) ?

[Ted]

I'm sorry ,but what do you mean "turn him upside down"? And then back right again? What? First,,,don't touch your frog,it's not that kind of pet,,next, these frogs can sit in one position for hours,so get used to it,,also no lighting,and blockthe back and sides of the tank ,you got to make your frogs feel like the amazon,they cant be stressed out,,,no touch...

[Fabrizio]

I know, Ted. I avoid to stress them as much as possible; I dared to put him upside down just this evening, to adscertain if something 'strange' was on his underside's skin, and I feared some fungus when I saw these white areas..
I wear gloves and used a plastic disposable spoon to gently put him on his back, avoinding any rough motion and possibile trauma, as long as I could.
-I did that twice, just because I noticed how long he stayed upside down, before righting up with a sudden motion.
But the female turns right almost immediately, when I (for comparison) tried to make the same at her, too. Although both of them perform strong webbing sprouts, she's more active, overall.
Hence, my worrying about some particular weakness of the male, due to fungus (?) or else; and my idea of putting gently some food in his mouth, if necessary to help him to recover strenght, or perhaps soak with Blue ,methylene.
But I'm really uncertain about what to do....

[Ted]

What you do is ..raise the temperature!,,,,

[Ratz]

Hello,

60 liter is not much water... I hope they get a larger enclosure after finishing quarantine. You have to take good care about water quality, especially when you feed dead feeders! Maintaining water quality works in the same way as for Aquarium fishes. It is very important to keep N- metabolites like Nitrate and Ammonium and the microbe load on a low level.

How often do you change the water?

[Ted]

60l or 15 gal is fine for 1 frog,a20gal for a pair.now I'm a stickler for water quality ,but with frogs that are garbage cans,this can be challenging.ive found even 25% changes a day isn't enough.so I've come up with my double tank system.i use 2 , 15 gal tanks .both have identical heaters,identical aged water.my substrate are washed silk leaves.the frog is in one tank.the other tank has filtered water in it.i bring it up to heat and then add some of the aged leaves.this sits for 5-7 days,until the frog tank is soiled,then I take the frogs substrate, move it to the clean tank,take a pot with original water in it plus frog,and transfer him to the other tank.now I clean and repeat process to the other tank.one week he's in one tank and the other week the second tank.i just keep toggling him between tanks.this works well for me,and works good for frog ..I should also mention that the tanks are only half filled with water ..

[Ratz]

Hi,

my thought was that with 100 liter or more, some plants, snails against the "garbage" and a decent biological filter, the water quality is much more stable. I made good experiences with Typhlonectes in such a setup.
But your system sounds also great and is even better for the thread starter as he has some health problems with his animals.