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    Some sources say that GTFs are immune to the FTB poison but im still seeing if that's the case. Ill let you know.

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    Default Re: Has anyone ever tried mixing species?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjm2653 View Post
    Some sources say that GTFs are immune to the FTB poison but im still seeing if that's the case. Ill let you know.

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    If there are particular resources you can recall regarding "being ok to mix ANY particular species" ; would it be possible to post a link here as this is always an important topic. It would be great to read them.

    -not specific to FBs ---- however, here is a great string of posts that was picked by Reptile Report and re-printed on-line:

    For New Comers To Exotics or Amphibs - Don't Mix Species Topic - Reptile Forums

    another:

    mixed frogs ? - Reptile Forums

    Both sources found here: The Reptile Report


    I did a Frog Forum search > "mixing species" there were 291 posts here on this topic.
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    The toxins of course being the biggest issue, but heres the thing.

    Different requirements are easy enough to simulate in the same setup. Firebellies and Chubbys aren't that different that you couldn't provide them both with exactly what they need in the same tank given the size. Chubby's aren't the most active and firebellies tend to stick near water (at least for me). My biggest concern is the toxins but I was wondering how they work. In nature there would be constant exposure near the Firebelly home. So I assume theres something that either removes the toxins or neutralizes them. My first assumption would be plants / water. So in a 55 gallon tank designed to be long, well planted, and an artificial rain setup would toxins really be an issue considering the lack of interaction between the two?

    And I also recall reading Chubby / Firebellies are compatible but again toxins take years to kill so it is hard to say if someone has had a good run for 2-3 years, but since he hasn't hit 15 years its difficult to say whether toxins have an affect on the over all life of the frog. It would take multiple setups with multiple firebellies / chubbys to see if there was any real result.

    This hobby has come a long way in the last few years, compared to the 90s, despite of this we are still living on the information passed down from us by people who didn't fully understand all of the interactions and requirements.

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    I personally wouldn't try mixing FBT's with other animals, because I wouldn't want to take that risk, and then any of the animals be affected badly (or die).

    However, I have always wondered about FBT in nature, as I know they can't be the only things living in their natural territory. Does anyone have any information on other animals found safely living in the same area as FBT's (in their natural environment)? In the wild, what properties would make it safe for other animals to physically come into contact with the same environment as a FBT (considering the FBT's toxins)?

    Quote Originally Posted by RandD View Post
    The toxins of course being the biggest issue, but heres the thing.

    Different requirements are easy enough to simulate in the same setup. Firebellies and Chubbys aren't that different that you couldn't provide them both with exactly what they need in the same tank given the size. Chubby's aren't the most active and firebellies tend to stick near water (at least for me). My biggest concern is the toxins but I was wondering how they work. In nature there would be constant exposure near the Firebelly home. So I assume theres something that either removes the toxins or neutralizes them. My first assumption would be plants / water. So in a 55 gallon tank designed to be long, well planted, and an artificial rain setup would toxins really be an issue considering the lack of interaction between the two?

    And I also recall reading Chubby / Firebellies are compatible but again toxins take years to kill so it is hard to say if someone has had a good run for 2-3 years, but since he hasn't hit 15 years its difficult to say whether toxins have an affect on the over all life of the frog. It would take multiple setups with multiple firebellies / chubbys to see if there was any real result.

    This hobby has come a long way in the last few years, compared to the 90s, despite of this we are still living on the information passed down from us by people who didn't fully understand all of the interactions and requirements.

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