Thank you, Paul. Still bothers me because he was one of the larger, chubbier, males, only about 2 years old, and perfectly healthy up until that point. Just goes to show that one little off thing can make a big difference to them. But my other males were calling tonight and the females were ignoring them which is normal for that group, so I think I can relax a little. Who am I kidding?? No I won't.....