Is Pig ill? :.l

[victorsgrace]

Hi guys. I need your help :.l

My little Duttaphrynus melanostictus, "Pig", has developed a kind of swollenness in his warts and in his left hand that I'm a little worried about. I've looked around the net, but couldn't find anything describing this as an illness and I just want to check up with you.

- I filled out the "Trouble in enclosure" document and have attached pictures below.

I got him ca. two weeks ago from a reptile expo in Hamm. Besides being a little skinny, he seemed in good health. He had one swollen wart, that's slowly grown since then. He is still active and very interested in prey. Eats well and made a HUMUNGOS poop a little under a week ago, other than that I have only seen a small poop in his dish and small clumbs, that could be poop, on the ground. He is not swollen stomach-wise, doesn't walk strange or act strange at all. I know it can be hard in amphibians, but he does not seem to be at any discomfort, is not acting strange in any way, is not lethargic or energy drained.

But his hand worries me. Here's my info - I hope you guys can help me out :l

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Hello,
answerto "Trouble in the enclosure" questionnary :

1.Size of enclosure
15,7 inches deep. 11,8 inches high, 16,1 inches wides (Pig just fills out the cup of my palm)

2.# of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
Noother inhabitants.

3.Humidity
Ca. 70% - no humidity measurer yet.

4.Temperature
20 – 21 degress. (68 - 69 fehrenheit)

5.Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
Tap water (thewater in Copehagen is fosfor- and chlorine free and soft (not high in calcium levels). Water's left to airfor 24 hours. Used for two Bufo bufo wildcaught without any problemfor a year).

6.Materials used for substrate
Unfertilised topsoil and without anychemicals.

7.Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark andother materials.
-How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
Mosspads.They were just watered with cold water and put in. Bought at aterrarium expo, as material for vivarium/terrarium.

8.Main food source
Crickets dusted once (only had Pig for two weeks)and well fed w. clean water every second day, oats, fish flakes,vegetables.

9.Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
I've had him for ca. two weeks.I dusted once so far.


10.Lighting
Compact UV sun 11W lightbuld from Llucky Reptile(although he stays in his coconut house practically all day)

11.What is being used to maintain the temperature of theenclosure
Nothing. It's not necessary – our room is kept atliving room temperature and is 19-21 degrees constant.

12.When is the last time he/she ate
Last time was yesterday(23/3)

13.Have you found poop lately
Five-six days ago saw a HUGE poop!Other than that not sure – look for poop everyday, only found smallclumps yesterday, that could well be poop (covered in topsoil)

14.A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any includingcell phone pic is fine)
(Included below)

Pig had a right wart on his side, a little swollen, when I got him. It's slowly grown and look like these three, which have also slowly grown.

This shows his right hand. I don't like the swollenness :.( He uses it completely normally, but he did not have this two weeks ago.


15.How old is the frog
Not sure. I think he is ca. 1½ yearsold.

16.How long have you owned him/her
Ca. two weeks.

17.Is the frog wild caught or captive bred
Not sure, but I believe he is captive bred.

18.Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders areused as treats
He has been fed well fed crickets, small enough forhim (not wider than the width between his eyes) and occasional 1-2mealworms as a snack (two times since I've had him). Would not takeearth worm yet.

19.How often the frog is handled
Ca.once every second or third day, for about 10 minutes.

20.Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
Medium. I onlyhave a one-room apartment so he's situated in the center of the room,on a shelf against the wall, besides the terrarium w. my other twoguys. He has a coconut house where he can stay completelyhidden.

21.Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)
Wateris cleaned every night where I poor out the water from the daybefore, wipe the bowl thuroughly w. toiletpaper to get rid of anyremnants of anything (there is not left anyleftovers of paper atalland once a month I poor boiling water over the bowl, before fillingin new water – but I have not had him for that long. Also I checkfor poop every second day and remove it. Remove all topsoil ca. everymonth, but have not had him for that long.)

Also,post some pictures of the enclosure




Hope you guys can help me and that I'm worried for nothing :./

[Ratz]

Hello, thats a beautyfull toad you got there, I especially love those spiny warts

As it is a tropical species it needs somewhat higher temperatures in the daytime. I would try to reach at least 25°C at day, with room temperature at night.
For the swollen bodyparts I have no idea what could be the cause. Just hope its nothing serious... but as he eats and behaves normally he probably doesnt suffer much.

[victorsgrace]

Nobody else heard or saw this before? I'm writing the online amfibian vet tomorrow.

[Mentat]

I've not read about a toad's warts suddenly growing; but the leg swelling could be sign of an injury or bacterial issue. Both cases will probably require taking frog to a herp veterinary for x-rays or skin cultures.

Agree with Victor that the temperature sounds a bit low for a tropical species. Also, unless you test your water for the presence of chloramines and heavy metals, myself would recommend threat it with Seachem Prime. Good luck !

[victorsgrace]

Dug really deep on the net and read about bacterial infections - took a closer look at Pig and his irritated glands and discovered that the swollen glands are filled with thick, yellow puss and his foot is still slightly swelling

So I'm making an emergency medi-tank, and will transform his tank tomorrow into a medi-tank (his permanent tank keeps the humidity better, I'm keeping it now at 80-85 degrees, although the website I found about the species, before buying him, say they prefer high humidity, but it's not lifeline necessary for them, since they also live in varied humidity levels).

And tomorrow I'm writing the online net doctor and contacting a reptile doctor here in Denmark - I know he has experience in amfibians, so I hope he can help with an antibiotic treatment.

Everything seems to indicate that Pig had this infection when I bought him.... :.l Luckily I don't seem to have transferred it to Birger and Louis by touch of both watertanks or whatever (Pig has been quarenteened pr. principle and lives permanently in his own tank).

Totally sucks.... Hope it's not too late

[victorsgrace]

(80-85% humidity, not degrees)