Strange Behavior

[cjbage]

thank you for your replies, yes double checked all parameters, etc, there was a larger number then normal of the bigger crickets dead when I cleaned, I do so every few days since the container is not really huge, I have premium cricket food mixed with one of the recipes on here and it gets put in and changed regularly along with the water crystals, maybe they need more warmth, its about 75° where I keep them.

About an hour before the timer turned on the lights Cedar settled down and burrowed completely under the substrate, so hopefully you were right and he just decided to have an active night n worry the poo out of me lol crossing fingers

[cjbage]

Just in case here is this info:

“Trouble in the Frog Enclosure”
The following information will be very helpful if provided when requesting assistance with either your frog or enclosure. To help with your questions, please utilize the below list and post the information in the proper forum area to get advice from FF members that keep the same frog. This will allow for little confusion and a faster more informed response.

1. Size of enclosure
med size critter keeper placed inside of a 10g tank with 3 sides covered

2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
1

3. Humidity
between 65% and 70% depending on if the humidifier kicked in, maintains this throughout the day using a ZooMed hygrotherm controller

4. Temperature
82° day / 77° night

5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
Dechlorinated tap ( well ) water with 2drops of Seachem prime per gallon as per Seachem site recommendation is used in water dish
humidifier uses distilled water along side of large tank not directed inside of smaller enclosure - can change this to dechlorinated tap or spring water if necessary

6. Materials used for substrate
Eco earth only- moist not wet using dechlorinated water

7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
- How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
Enclosure is a med sized critter keeper with eco earth substrate (1.5 -2" depending on location ) a single silk plant and a shallow water dish, nothing new was added or changed other then location of water bowl after this cleaning since he was dug down in the substrate where the bowl normally sat. Bowl gets cleaned daily with hot water, dipped or sprayed with dechlorinated tap then refilled and placed back in, plant gets sprayed down daily w/ dechlorinated water

8. Main food source
Crickets from Carolina Crickets, have tried other food sources with no luck, going to keep trying

9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
RepCal herpavite & Cal w/ D3 used on the schedule for babies posted here: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html

10. Lighting
Hidden LED with white/blue lights, on for 12hours, then just the blue on for about an hour before lights out completely

11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
Zoo Med hygrotherm with a 60w CHE attached

12. When is the last time he/she ate
last night, not as much as usually does- see concern about crickets on top post

13. Have you found poop lately
has pooped about 3 days ago ( 3 total poops discoved over the last 3 weeks)

14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)
he/she is completely buried in the substrate atm

15. Describe frog's symptoms and/or recent physical changes; to include it's ventral/belly area.
See first posting, nothing out of the normal as far as physical changes just decided to scrape against side and try n climb out last night for hours before settling down

16. How old is the frog
unknown- only a baby, approx 2 inches STV weights 12g

17. How long have you owned him/her
3 weeks

18. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred-
not sure, came from Petsmart and the label isn't marked either way

19. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
right now only crickets, have tried Dubia, nightcrawler pieces and have ordered PacMan food from samurai-japan reptiles to try

20. How often the frog is handled
rarely, only during times when trying to get him to eat something other then crickets

21. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
low normally.. although have had to be in the room more then normal the past 3 days

22. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)
water changed every day, bowl cleaned with hot water, dipped in dechlorinated then refilled, substrate spot cleaned daily any visible waste is removed, full substrate cleaned for first time last night, only had him 3 weeks, using eco earth and fresh made dechlorinated water

by Lynn(Flybyferns) and GrifTheGreat.

[Silkmoth]

Could it be some kind of toxin or poison? Is the dirt in the tank new? Some sick people get a kick out of putting poison in things, maybe in the dirt you bought? I know my post sounds silly, but maybe?
Anyway, I hope this turns out ok.

[DVirginiana]

Your frog sounds fine. The humidity is a little on the low side, but probably not enough to really cause problems in the short term, especially if the substrate is moist. Try to get it up to around 80% though.

I seriously doubt there are toxins or anything in the eco-earth.

If you recently rearranged or cleaned anything in the tank, your frog probably just got a little stressed. Mine spends about twenty minutes trying to climb out of her tank every time I do a thorough cleaning. I think no matter how well you wash out the cleaning chemicals, they can probably still pick up on them and are probably a little freaked out by it. Sometimes mine does it when she's uncovered herself to shed as well.

[cjbage]

Your frog sounds fine. The humidity is a little on the low side, but probably not enough to really cause problems in the short term, especially if the substrate is moist. Try to get it up to around 80% though.

I seriously doubt there are toxins or anything in the eco-earth.

If you recently rearranged or cleaned anything in the tank, your frog probably just got a little stressed. Mine spends about twenty minutes trying to climb out of her tank every time I do a thorough cleaning. I think no matter how well you wash out the cleaning chemicals, they can probably still pick up on them and are probably a little freaked out by it. Sometimes mine does it when she's uncovered herself to shed as well.

i can definately turn up the humidity no problems with that and see how it goes

[cjbage]

The eco earth I am using is from a bag bought right after I got him, from Petco, it is the loose stuff as a full compressed brick is way to much for his current enclosure, found that out the hard way when I made up a brick and had a ton of it left in the soaking bucket, the bag was unopened and was well sealed. The only other thing I can do is hunt down a hydroponics store in my area and see if they have any coir bricks and try that.