get rid of that water bowl !!!!

[Kelsieb]

i have been doing my routine as long as your frogs are old. Back in the day, when i had all kinds of "extra time", i would have not cared about the extra maintenance time for water features of a frog but now there is no such thing as extra time. So i found a way that not only works but, according to you, gives the same result as all the other frogs on the internet without all the extra maintenance time. That is Great IMO. Opinions dont ever matter, its the results that make a difference. The results i have, prove that water features are optional and unnecessary. For everyone with "time to burn" my results dont matter, and that is fine IMO.

So you admit that you are depriving your frogs of a water bowl because you don't have the time for cleaning out the bowls. Perhaps you shouldn't have the frogs if you are so busy that you can't take 8-10 minutes a day/every other day to clean out a water bowl. Just because your routine has been done for a long time doesn't mean it is the right way for your animals. Bullfighting has been done for a long time but anyone with a heart knows that's no way to treat bulls. Options DO matter because your frog only has what you give him and can't complain. You are taking away his options because you are lazy and now you are trying to convince newbies to do it too, that to me is despicable, selfish and cruel of you not only to the frogs who's lives are in your hands but to the newbies who don't know better and come here for guidance!

[mattfish]

So you admit that you are depriving your frogs of a water bowl because you don't have the time for cleaning out the bowls. Perhaps you shouldn't have the frogs if you are so busy that you can't take 8-10 minutes a day/every other day to clean out a water bowl. Just because your routine has been done for a long time doesn't mean it is the right way for your animals. Bullfighting has been done for a long time but anyone with a heart knows that's no way to treat bulls. Options DO matter because your frog only has what you give him and can't complain. You are taking away his options because you are lazy and now you are trying to convince newbies to do it too, that to me is despicable, selfish and cruel of you not only to the frogs who's lives are in your hands but to the newbies who don't know better and come here for guidance!

Calm Down!!! I am Not depriving water for him to sustain life! a water feature is unnecessay IF you provide constantly moist substrate for him. If you provide a water bowl you better be cleaning it EVERYDAY or you will have problems! that is a fact. I also agree that bullfighting is wrong and that is why it is illegal in the U.S.A.

[Kelsieb]

Calm Down!!! I am Not depriving water for him to sustain life! a water feature is unnecessay IF you provide constantly moist substrate for him. If you provide a water bowl you better be cleaning it EVERYDAY or you will have problems! that is a fact. I also agree that bullfighting is wrong and that is why it is illegal in the U.S.A.

A moist substrate is provided for my frogs, but I have two that spend nearly all day in their water dishes by choice. Perhaps that is why your crazy idea really gets on my nerves, my boys love their water dishes and I can't even think of depriving them of such a necessary thing. You are being selfish to your frogs needs because you want to save time, that also irritates me because that is outright laziness. I do clean my frogs water dishes everyday because my animals needs come first. It also really irritates me that you are encouraging newbies to do this dumb risky stuff to gain attention for yourself.

I just thought of something, above you claimed to own many pixie frogs yet all we hear about on FF is Mr. Pickles, where are all these other wonderfully colored water dishless pixie frogs?

[Mentat]

This issue has been beaten to death in similar threads. If you gentleman continue with flame war I'll lock this thread up faster than you can imagine .

[mattfish]

A moist substrate is provided for my frogs, but I have two that spend nearly all day in their water dishes by choice. Perhaps that is why your crazy idea really gets on my nerves, my boys love their water dishes and I can't even think of depriving them of such a necessary thing. You are being selfish to your frogs needs because you want to save time, that also irritates me because that is outright laziness. I do clean my frogs water dishes everyday because my animals needs come first. It also really irritates me that you are encouraging newbies to do this dumb risky stuff to gain attention for yourself.

I just thought of something, above you claimed to own many pixie frogs yet all we hear about on FF is Mr. Pickles, where are all these other wonderfully colored water dishless pixie frogs?

You are getting upset over NOTHING! I am not telling you to change anything or losing my mind over you not practicing what i am preaching. I am presenting a way that works! whether you like that or not. it works! your qoute was "Perhaps you shouldn't have the frogs if you are so busy that you can't take 8-10 minutes a day/every other day to clean out a water bowl" All i said was If you have a water dish you better be cleaning it everyday or you will have problems. I hope newbies try what i have done! that is the whole reason i take time to write about my successes. My way is just common sense! I only have Mr. Pickles i never wrote that i have multiple frogs. I have had many frogs threw the years though and never lost one. On a different note, it looks like you are wanting to breed your frogs. That is awesome!! For breeding your water feature is a must. Make sure to put up pics when you have babies. I wish you all the best!

[Kelsieb]

You are getting upset over NOTHING! I am not telling you to change anything or losing my mind over you not practicing what i am preaching. I am presenting a way that works! whether you like that or not. it works! your qoute was "Perhaps you shouldn't have the frogs if you are so busy that you can't take 8-10 minutes a day/every other day to clean out a water bowl" All i said was If you have a water dish you better be cleaning it everyday or you will have problems. I hope newbies try what i have done! that is the whole reason i take time to write about my successes. My way is just common sense! I only have Mr. Pickles i never wrote that i have multiple frogs. I have had many frogs threw the years though and never lost one. On a different note, it looks like you are wanting to breed your frogs. That is awesome!! For breeding your water feature is a must. Make sure to put up pics when you have babies. I wish you all the best!

I have no plans to breed my frogs. I bought three unsexed babies and one happened to be female. I thought you had stated you had multiple frogs, my mistake and apologies. I will cease on both threads since Mentat asked.

By the way Mentat, I am a girl

[mattfish]

I have no plans to breed my frogs. I bought three unsexed babies and one happened to be female. I thought you had stated you had multiple frogs, my mistake and apologies. I will cease on both threads since Mentat asked.

By the way Mentat, I am a girl

Well since you have these frogs now whats stopping you from trying to breed them? It would be exciting to try. Maybe an albino would come out and BAM you just made $5000.00 or more. (:

[Kelsieb]

Well since you have these frogs now whats stopping you from trying to breed them? It would be exciting to try. Maybe an albino would come out and BAM you just made $5000.00 or more. (:

I care more about my frogs welfare and life verses any money I could possibly make off of them! Surely you know how dangerous and costly breeding these frogs is with the hormone injections and such. Even without the hormones they could still die during brumation. I know that to you your frogs are simply part of your 'collection' but mine are valued pets. I also have the belief that just because it has the equipment intact doesn't mean it MUST reproduce.

[Mentat]

...By the way Mentat, I am a girl

Sorry Miss Kelsieb; hard to tell from name !