Mystery diagnosis?

[Mentat]

Did you get both frogs at the same time? The tumbling and whole frog issues might be caused by exposure to chloramines in tap water. An infection could be a secondary development, due to toxins in body and a weakened immune system .

[LiarDelilah]

Yes, I got them both about a day apart. I got them both from my work (Petco), so they have lived together for some time. Really? You think low calcium? I've been fusing with calcium since I've got them, given that they're babies/juvenile and still growing.

Are you saying they SHOULD be together for feeding or remain separated as they are at the present?

[LiarDelilah]

Where do I contact Dr. Frye? The same paypal email that was recommended, or does he have another known preferred method?

[Mentat]

Where do I contact Dr. Frye? The same paypal email that was recommended, or does he have another known preferred method?

Here is his contact information: Milan Area Animal Hospital, David M. Frye, DVM, Veterinary services in Milan, MI, Home page.

[flybyferns]

Where do I contact Dr. Frye? The same paypal email that was recommended, or does he have another known preferred method?

http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

email 1st -- see post #4 in this thread

[flybyferns]

Where do I contact Dr. Frye? The same paypal email that was recommended, or does he have another known preferred method?

Email 1st-----see post #4 in this thread.


http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

[LiarDelilah]

Update: contacted Dr. Frye. He thinks it's a possibility that it is a bacterial, or fungal infection, or a mix of the two. He will be sending baytril and silversufa. I really hope this works. I asked if the frogs should be separated, as e one is in isolation, he suggested that since they've lived together and raised together, it would be more stressful to keep them apart, and to treat the frog that is not showing signs with baytril unless any actual symptoms arise.

Now, I'm just left wondering if I can still use coconut fiber as a bedding for the pair of them and leave it planted or not, otherwise I have some deep cleaning to do while the other is in the hospital tank.

Thoughts? I'm a little paranoid about the naturalistic woods I have in there. Definitely have been decreasing their humidity, though.

[Mentat]

Myself would move both frogs together into hospital enclosure during treatment duration and sterilize the main one as per post no. 5. Sorry I'm telling you to tear whole vivarium up and get rid of everything that can't be sterilized; but there are no other options . That is the reason a proper quarantine is important, specially when moving frogs into an expensively decorated live vivarium.

[LiarDelilah]

Myself would move both frogs together into hospital enclosure during treatment duration and sterilize the main one as per post no. 5. Sorry I'm telling you to tear whole vivarium up and get rid of everything that can't be sterilized; but there are no other options . That is the reason a proper quarantine is important, specially when moving frogs into an expensively decorated live vivarium.

Hardly your fault! I work at petco, so I can always get more. I guess what I'm not sure of, is after they, primarily the one, are treated, is a planted tank okay for them? How do I prevent said infection from coming back or am I doomed to a paper towel/unplanted terrarium as long as I have them? Haha

[LiarDelilah]

Just went to fed them, and the frog in question now has this where the discoloration was. Ugh. I need these meds to get here quick. I don't know what's going on.

[Louis Charles Bruckner]

I think that this is a good sign.
The the frogs immune system is trying to fight the infection.
Now the frog looks better to me now.
The last picture the frogs color was very dark over all and that one area was a lighter color and a bit raised.
Now it is a bright green. To me mens that it is feeling better.
How is it acting, is it staying on the floor of the enclosure, or staying in its water dish?
Is it eating well. and has it had a BM lately?

[LiarDelilah]

I've noticed this, too. He remained his normal color of green, is having bowl movements and has continued to eat like a pig through all this. But in the picture I posted, on the left side of the face (his right) there are these dark marks that weren't there when my concern arose with the blotched color. Are these scabs? New wounds? I can get a better picture if need be.