Mystery diagnosis?

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Lynn suggested take frog to veterinary if possible; so maybe these links will help find one local or contact Dr. Frye: Arav or Herp Vet Connection. If you have two frogs together when problem started and there is a pathogen involved will probably need to treat both frogs and sterilize all enclosures involved.

Sterilization will include getting rid of all live plants and substrate, boiling for 10 minutes all plastic and silk plants/decor, baking all wood and any drainage rocks at 250F for one hour, and wiping enclosure out with 15% plain chlorox solution. Let air dry and then wipe with paper towel soaked in 4X strength dechlorinator solution. If available wipe with Zoo Med Wipe Out and let air dry before reusing.

I've made some comments based on your responses. Good luck !

Hi! Thanks for the reply! Aww, man. I was hoping not. Weed the information.- How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
1. Size of enclosure: 12 x 18 x 12, this is the current size of the isolation terrarium. Ordinarily the cage is a bit bigger.
Two adult White's will need at least an 18x18x24 and that is bare minimum.

3. Humidity- 80
Lower to 50-65% by increasing ventilation or decreasing misting.

4. Temperature- 70-75 at the lowest (night), 80s during the day.
White's need a day basking spot of 85F.

5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish- Was using regular water, now I've been using water that's been sitting out for at least 24 hours.
Get Seachem Prime or similar product and dechlorinate the water. Chloramines do not leave the water by venting and your frog is getting toxins in them.

6. Materials used for substrate: coconut fiber/moss
Moss is an impaction hazard if it ever gets ingested with a cricket. The coco fiber should be mixed with dechlorinated tap or it will hurt your frog. Mix it so it is slightly damp and clumps in fist without dripping water out. You mentioned live plants and unless epiphytes; will need ABG soil because there is no plant nutrition in coco.

7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
- How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.: in the current tank, there is a fake vine, and a fake plant or two as well. In the main tank there are a few live plants.
How were those live plants prepared? Did you rinse them off all soil from original pots?

8. Main food source: crickets
Should be sized same as distance between frog's eyes and gut loaded with carrots, lettuce, crushed oats/cherios.

9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often): Vitamin C dusting daily, with d3 once a week or two, multivitamins about the same.
Stop giving daily vitamin C to frog now (or did you meant Calcium). Use following schedules according to frog size for dusting: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html .

13. Have you found poop lately: haven't searched, but will keep an eye out for it.
Recommend conduct fecal analysis for both frogs.

19. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats- N/A, only crickets
See no. 8.

20. How often the frog is handled- when necessary, once a week a best.
Wash hands well and rinse with dechlorinated tap before handling frog; then wash again after handling.

22. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)- hasn't been maintained yet, still relatively new. Mostly, I change the water.
Water should be changed daily with dechlorinated tap and enclosure spot cleaned as required.

[LiarDelilah]

Thank you for the replies!

Lynn, what is the average cost to contact the vet online? Also, if it is an infection, how treatable is something like this? I'm so bummed, I feel like I already failed at my first frog.

[flybyferns]

Thank you for the replies!

Lynn, what is the average cost to contact the vet online? Also, if it is an infection, how treatable is something like this? I'm so bummed, I feel like I already failed at my first frog.

There is no "contact" charge. You just pay for the medication.
He will not charge you to email him....he will get back to you ...really quickly
Lynn

[LiarDelilah]

Great! Thank you so much! I'll contact him straight away!

[LiarDelilah]

Lynn suggested take frog to veterinary if possible; so maybe these links will help find one local or contact Dr. Frye: Arav or Herp Vet Connection. If you have two frogs together when problem started and there is a pathogen involved will probably need to treat both frogs and sterilize all enclosures involved.

Sterilization will include getting rid of all live plants and substrate, boiling for 10 minutes all plastic and silk plants/decor, baking all wood and any drainage rocks at 250F for one hour, and wiping enclosure out with 15% plain chlorox solution. Let air dry and then wipe with paper towel soaked in 4X strength dechlorinator solution. If available wipe with Zoo Med Wipe Out and let air dry before reusing.

I've made some comments based on your responses. Good luck !

Thank you! Yes, their MAIN cage is a 18x18x24, the dimensions I gave were for the isolation tank that the frog is currently in. I will be dumping out and baking the things inside asap. Also, the plants were kept in a glass jar terrariums long before I had the frogs, they have not been cleansed, as I wouldnt know how to go about doing that, but I did get rid of all prior dirt that had come along with them, and I did my research to make sure that the plants were frog-safe. When I typed my response, I was half asleep, I completely did mean CALCIUM and not vitamin C, sorry! The food is crickets, they are considered "medium" crickets. I already know about the space between the eye thing, and they fit said rule. Water will definitely be dechlorinated now, and I will be stopping misting (so frequently, at least)