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    Default Re: Something seems wrong with my Whites Tree Frog

    I highly recommend the bowl method of feeding so you can keep a count on how many crickets there are.
    and it keeps them from getting hidden in the enclosure and possibly biting your frog
    I would also use larger crickets , your Loki is large enough to handle adult crickets.
    I ran out of large crickets once and had some small ones for my baby toad that I was rehabbing and offer those but they didn't bother with the small crickets.

    A 3 inch diameter 2 inch deep glass or ceramic bowl buried level with the substrate works great.
    (a white bowl is the best as it allows the feeders contrast with the white and makes it easier for the frog to see the feeders unless they are dusted with calcium.)

    if you have to force feed it can be done but it best done as a two person operation onc person to hold the frog and use a plastic spoon turned upside down and gently slid from the edge of the mouth to the front in-between its lips.
    The other person with a cricket , better a wax worm. in a pair of tongs insert gently into the frogs mouth and let the frog close it mouth on the spoon and remove the spoon.
    Hopefully the frog won't spit out the food.

    When a neighbor of mine that had a 2 year old pack man frog that was refusing to eat after almost 3 weeks and lost 30g.
    I used that method to force feed pac man food that was mixed with 3x the normal water so it was more of a jelly than a dough ball.
    I loaded a large syringe(with out needle) it worked great.
    I just had to be careful not to squirt too much or it would make the frog choke and possibly aspirate. (trust me not a good thing.)
    But the frog closed both its eyes and pointed its head straight up and did a big swallow.
    being that it is a jelly the frog has no choice but to swallow some if it.

    Good luck



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    Default Re: Something seems wrong with my Whites Tree Frog

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Charles Bruckner View Post
    I highly recommend the bowl method of feeding so you can keep a count on how many crickets there are.
    and it keeps them from getting hidden in the enclosure and possibly biting your frog
    I would also use larger crickets , your Loki is large enough to handle adult crickets.
    I ran out of large crickets once and had some small ones for my baby toad that I was rehabbing and offer those but they didn't bother with the small crickets.

    A 3 inch diameter 2 inch deep glass or ceramic bowl buried level with the substrate works great.
    (a white bowl is the best as it allows the feeders contrast with the white and makes it easier for the frog to see the feeders unless they are dusted with calcium.)

    if you have to force feed it can be done but it best done as a two person operation onc person to hold the frog and use a plastic spoon turned upside down and gently slid from the edge of the mouth to the front in-between its lips.
    The other person with a cricket , better a wax worm. in a pair of tongs insert gently into the frogs mouth and let the frog close it mouth on the spoon and remove the spoon.
    Hopefully the frog won't spit out the food.

    When a neighbor of mine that had a 2 year old pack man frog that was refusing to eat after almost 3 weeks and lost 30g.
    I used that method to force feed pac man food that was mixed with 3x the normal water so it was more of a jelly than a dough ball.
    I loaded a large syringe(with out needle) it worked great.
    I just had to be careful not to squirt too much or it would make the frog choke and possibly aspirate. (trust me not a good thing.)
    But the frog closed both its eyes and pointed its head straight up and did a big swallow.
    being that it is a jelly the frog has no choice but to swallow some if it.

    Good luck
    Thank you for the advice! I was wondering how I might go about force feeding if need be, so thank you for the tip. I've never had a problem getting a Whites to eat before so I wasn't quite sure what to do, though I do wonder if there is also something else going on with him. Getting him to eat would be a great start though.

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    Default Re: Something seems wrong with my Whites Tree Frog

    Please read this, you need to know about your frog's needs: Frog Forum - White's Tree Frog Care - Litoria caerulea. This might help you locate a good veterinary and once you do, please take frog in as soon as possible: Arav or Herp Vet Connection.

    In the meantime, recommend move frog to a hospital like enclosure with damp (dechlorinated water) unprinted paper towels for substrate. In there you can have a couple sterile branches, water dish, and some silk foliage to reduce stress.

    Get a bottle of unflavored Pedialyte or similar baby electrolyte to prepare a bath. You will mix 90% 80F dechlorinated tap water with 10% Pedialyte. Using a small critter keeper or plastic bowl with holed up top; bath frog in chin deep solution for 20-30 minutes. Can cover with a small towel to calm frog and hold temperature longer. Then return to enclosure and try to feed.

    Night crawlers (not dyed from Walmart or a local bait shop) are an excellent food. Crickets should be sized same as distance between frog's eyes and gut loaded with carrots, lettuce, and crushed oats or cherios for 24-48 hours before feeding frog. Feed in early evening when frog is active and remove any uneaten crickets in the morning. For more info and schedules for dietary supplements, read this: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html. Hope it gets better and good luck !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    I had one of my whites look like this and did not survive. It died 2 days later from impaction. If you feel the inners (GENTLY) Do you feel any foreign object? By the looks of the frog is far from basic herp care and needs vet assistance. Im sorry. I cant help you on my end. GET YOUR FROG TO A VET!!! PROMPTLY!!

    Best Wishes,

    GreenTree

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