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    atp0726
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    Default Help me decide between Varadero or Cristobal?

    I have been waiting for the weather to warm up to get a probable pair of R. Varadero and now for the same price I have found some Pumilio "Cristobal" within driving range and I wouldn't need to ship (part of reason they are same price). I am now at a loss and cant decide which to go with. Any advice? I love the color of the Varadero, that they are arboreal and the size. It also sounds like from my research they have fairly bold personalities and from what I can find so do the Cristobal. Any experience with either frog would be appreciated especially those that have or have had both.

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    Default Re: Help me decide between Varadero or Cristobal?

    This is a very tough decision.
    So my solution is simple..... get both
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    atp0726
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    Default Help me decide between Varadero or Cristobal?

    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    This is a very tough decision.
    So my solution is simple..... get both
    Haha, wish it was that easy! I see you have varadero and I think I saw pumilo species. Is there any major differences other than the cristobal being a little more difficult to breed?


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    Default Re: Help me decide between Varadero or Cristobal?

    Hi,

    I can , only, share my experience
    I have 2 breeding pair of R imitator "Varadero" and a breeding pr of O pumilio " Black Jeans".
    I have limited experience with the pumi. However .....have three tads ( or more? / eggs?) in the enclosure based on their behavior.

    Besides leaving the O pumilio tads in the enclosure ( vs removing the R imitator tads from the enclosure) ,
    I see little, if NO, difference in their day to day care.
    I have left the, witnessed, 3 pumi tads in their enclosure, as that is my best advice from a person I respect.

    Both species , IMO.....are easier to take care of then what we read about.... assuming you are proficient at maintaining the enclosures for them.

    In general, my imis are more bold ....then my pumis.

    The females of both species are more bold then the male(s). Mine ...anyway

    Hope this helps

    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    atp0726
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    Default Help me decide between Varadero or Cristobal?

    I compared pictures of both species and I am leaning toward the Varadero, just have to stare at an empty viv until the weather in NY improves I guess


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