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    hi,
    I have an acf already, it's body without the legs is about 2 1/2 inches long. My new one is still a baby about 3/4 inch. Does any one know how big it will need to be before I can put it into the tank with my other one? I don't want him to be dinner!

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    Default Re: Introducing a new ACF

    Typically ACF like most other predators will feed on prey around 1/3 their own size. I wouldn't feel safe until your other frog was at least 1/2 the size of the other frog. I myself have a male that isn't quite there yet and I worry he will never get big enough to co-exist with my rather large female frogs.

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    It's always a bad idea to put two unmatched size of the same creature in one tank if they're not adults yet. 95% of the time the smaller one gets eaten or dies from bullying stress or from not eating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tongue Flicker View Post
    It's always a bad idea to put two unmatched size of the same creature in one tank if they're not adults yet. 95% of the time the smaller one gets eaten or dies from bullying stress or from not eating
    Cannibalism is a real danger with size mismatched ACF but bullying isn't, ACF don't really establish an hierarchy or anything. I've never seen one frog bully another.

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    Default Re: Introducing a new ACF

    Hello and welcome to FF! The smaller one needs to be over half the size of the larger one. Also; recommend you introduce the larger one into the smaller one's tank, or completely rearrange the decor in the larger's tank at introduction. Do it on a day you can observe for any problem or harassment. Although normally they won't; remember reading here a few months back, about a male being bullied by a larger male. Good luck !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    I have two males that have together for 15 years without problems, they are both the same size. ACFs are generally mild mannered and don't establish territories. Keep an eye out for aggressive behavior, I have seen females bully the smaller males.
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    Default Re: Introducing a new ACF

    Quote Originally Posted by tgampper View Post
    I have two males that have together for 15 years without problems, they are both the same size. ACFs are generally mild mannered and don't establish territories. Keep an eye out for aggressive behavior, I have seen females bully the smaller males.
    That's interesting. My male has not been introduced to my group of three females yet, is there any particular reason for the bullying, is it feeding related? How do they bully exactly?

    I've never seen aggression in my three female frogs, I figure they are simply predatory yet docile animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpmistr View Post
    Cannibalism is a real danger with size mismatched ACF but bullying isn't, ACF don't really establish an hierarchy or anything. I've never seen one frog bully another.
    Mine would suck the leg of the other to prevent it from eating lol. Happens during feeding only and no damage is done

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