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    I'll explain. We dont have humidity in alberta, average humidity in summer is about 30-40% if we're lucky, in winter at home it is at 10-20%, so it makes AB climate perfect for waxies, not for me though and i have humidifiers in almost all rooms + central. Lol
    In ontario it is opposite, if im not mistaken you have average of 60-70%, that is way too much for waxies. It is always easier to plug in fogger, increase misting if needed then to lower humidity. That is your main problem. With any frog it is a matter of knowing what they need, and once you achieve it is not that difficult. You're right on heating lamps day and night, but you will need different ones for day and night, for 2 males sauvagii they can live in 18x18x24, but if you have females, for 2 you need to go with 24x18x24 or bigger.

    milks are easier, because you dont need to add heating, they're fine in lower then waxies need temps, you dont need to increase humidity by much if you live where you do. Milks are considered easier because they are typical tree frogs, thus typical principles apply, with waxies everything is different - in higher then 40% humidity, luck of UVB and in general sunlight, in luck of ventilation and small space they wont survive. But if you really want to get sauvagii, plan on getting at least 2. I can guide you step by step how to set up everything.
    As much as i love other frogs, but waxies are by far my favourite!
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    im interested in waxies!!!!! so your telling me dont get waxie(s) but get milkys ? i want waxies but im still confused with what you said i know they need low humidity but where i live has high humidity wouldn't i be able to lower it in their terrarium some how? give me the pros and cons for having waxies where i live !!!!! but alsow tell me what i can do to contain their temps!!!!!

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    The humidity in you general area will not be the same inside of an enclosure with heat lamps. Heat lamps dry out the air. Get digital thermometers/ hydrometers to measure you temps and humidity inside the cage.

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    so your saying i can get the waxy monkey tree frog (phyllomadusa suvigii) now that you told me the heat drys out the terratium.
    so tell me once and for all both of you can i get a suvigii based on where i live!
    ...lija tell me all i will need for two waxys (suvigiis) and for the terrarium tell me the size with something that would be around me that would measure too the size of the terratium and i want exo terra. tell me the measurements.
    oh and by the way a small fan in their terrarium can blow out the humidity.
    sorry i sound so demanding but im just kinda excited about getting one.
    ps... if i cant end up getting a suvigii i will definatly be getting two amazon milks...

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    I know their an expensive frog but what is the normal retail price for the suvigii? I already know the price for the milks


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    Sorry I'm away right now will reply on Monday wifi here is really bad
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    I keep milk frogs and i live in toronto. They are really easy to take care of. They really don't need high humidity I rarely spray mine. I keep them like I keep my white's tree frogs. You could even keep them like a waxy because they like to bask sometimes and do live higher up in the trees similar to waxies. Humidity in my house is 30% during the winter which is low but doesn't seem to affect them either way they tolerate high and low humidity levels as i have kept them for long periods both ways. I know milks also benefit from high UV exposure so get the 10% repti glo bulbs. A basking spot of 35 degrees C is nice for them but not essential, they will use it but I went through 3 exo terra lamps before giving up, everyone broke because of their shoddy wiring in the ON/OFF switches so they did have a basking spot for a while but not anymore. I have had them for 4 years. Also milks are very hardy and dont stress easily and don't mind being handled plus eat alot and aren't fussy. Waxy's can be very fussy and not eat for weeks. So i think you would be better with milk frogs

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