I have to second what Jeff said. The people at DFW initially made sure to emphasize they were in no way connected to your typical dart frog hobbyists and ensured the world that their frogs were higher quality than any other frogs available to the market. What they didn't mention was that their parent stock that they have renamed, causing a lot of confusions to newbs, came from those hobbyists, myself included. They are advertising frogs that their "expert" produced when those frogs actually originated with a well known breeder, Sean Stewart. If you know anything about science and read their "research" on the site, you will see so many fallacies in thinking that you will get disenchanted with them. Any self respected hobbyist will tell you stay as far away from them as possible.