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Substrate help
Hi all,
Just sorting out my substrate and as I want to be keeping Springtails and Woodlice in with my D. leucomelas I was wondering if I should mix up my substrate? I am also going to keep real plants.
I currently have Eco-Earth of which is in a bucket now (I bought the condensed brick) and was wondering if I should mix anything in with it? I currently have some left over Tree Fern from when I built up the back of my enclosure, would that be good to mix in with it?
I have bought some Oak Leaves to spread over the top of the substrate, as well as 3 different types of moss - I dunno if this is information you need but thought I would share it anyway.
Any help is appreciated
Substrate help
Coco fiber has zero nutritional requirements for plants, and the tree fern fiber will add a little bit. You can add some sphagnum peat moss to the mix, it will offer the plants iron, which they love.
As far as springtails and wood lice, plan on keeping cultures of them because your frogs will snack on them whenever they have the opportunity, so you will have to reseed the tank from time to time.
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Re: Substrate help
I have ordered the following:
1 x Oak-leavesx100
1 x Sphagnum-moss-pack-1.5L
1 x Tropical Pillow Moss
1 x Tropical Sheet Moss x 1
So should I mix in that Sphagnum in with the Eco Earth? Or should I buy something else to mix in with it?
Re: Substrate help
that is a different kind of sphagnum. that will be long fiber sphagnum moss. it is a dehydrated version of live sphagnum moss. you would want peat moss. similar item, but more like a dirt.
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Re: Substrate help
I have some cocoa peat left over from my planted fish tank (yeah bad idea using peat in it, I know this first hand and was recommended wrongly), it is about a third of a compressed brick, I could water it down and mix that in? Would that help with plant growth?
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are you talking about a compressed bale of peat moss? if so, then yes, that would work. not sure why you had an issue using it in a planted tank, i use peat moss in all my planted tanks. i also use it in the aquatic sections of my paludariums. wouldn't put a tank tank together without it.
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Re: Substrate help
This is the stuff buddy.
Re: Substrate help
Sorry to bump but would that stuff be ok to mix in with the Eco-Earth to allow better plant growth? ^^
Substrate help
That is cocofiber. The same stuff as ecoearth. That explains why you had an issue with it in a planted tank. You want something more like this
http://www.scotts.com/smg/goprod/mir...d70252/8200004
But not this brand, it has fertilizers in it.
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Substrate help
Come on! You're from Britain. Isn't Scotland like 70% peat bogs? Lol
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Re: Substrate help
Haha, ok I will have a look round now.
Well, I am the other side of the Country, so wouldn't know :P
Will this do the trick? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ne...-/160950330476
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Not sure if you see the edit or not, so just getting your attention :P
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Re: Substrate help
Can you get ABG type soil mixes locally? Those are ready to use in a vivarium as is. If not; here is the ABG formula (post no. 3) so you can obtain/mix ingredients yourself
Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog!
Re: Substrate help
Not that I know of, I kinda want to get the substrate in now though, been looking at an empty tank enclosure for at least a week or so... haha. I have some Tree fern I can break up and mix in with the eco-earth. I will try and find some of the peat moss but I really have no clue what I am looking for really... lol.
I have this site where I can source certain things, is there anything here I could buy? http://www.dartfrog.co.uk/equipment/landscape.html
Or this: http://www.gocompost.co.uk/erin-mult..._p22424987.htm
Sorry for the lack of knowledge, I am trying to get all the information I need before I actually get my frogs.
Substrate help
That's not the one either. I did miss the edit
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Re: Substrate help
Argh >.< haha.
I just posted above your last post also. Anything there? lol
I wish I was in the US... Would make things like this so much easier... and cheaper...
Substrate help
I am going to look now. Was on my way home from work when I saw then post.
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Substrate help
I would go with their dendro soil. It's a compost loaded with micro fauna. Saves some steps. Being a compost, it should be chock full of nutrition for your plants.
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Re: Substrate help
Should I mix that with the Eco-Earth or was buying the Eco a waste of time and money? lol
Substrate help
You can mix it. You'll need it if that mix isn't enough substrate anyway
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
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