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    Default C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    I like that Ornates are supposed to be hardier with great appetites, but I love the appearance of Surinam horned frogs and I like the idea of the challenge that they may present. As a result I'm pretty torn between the two. Would you recommend an Ornate or Surinam, and why?
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    0.1.0 Ceratophrys cranwelli x cornuta-Peggy
    0.0.1 Litoria caerulea-Fremont
    0.0.1 Lithobates catesbeianus-The Bullfrog
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya sp.-Clay and Gemma

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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Frog Whisperer View Post
    I like that Ornates are supposed to be hardier with great appetites, but I love the appearance of Surinam horned frogs and I like the idea of the challenge that they may present. As a result I'm pretty torn between the two. Would you recommend an Ornate or Surinam, and why?
    Go with an Ornate. Trust me C. cornuta are more than a challenge.


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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    What exactly makes C. Cornuta more than a challenge?
    0.1.0 Lepidobatrachus laevis-George-RIP
    0.1.0 Ceratophrys cranwelli x cornuta-Peggy
    0.0.1 Litoria caerulea-Fremont
    0.0.1 Lithobates catesbeianus-The Bullfrog
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya sp.-Clay and Gemma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Frog Whisperer View Post
    What exactly makes C. Cornuta more than a challenge?
    They often refuse to eat, so unless you are prepared to force feed one for the rest of its life, don't get one.

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    Also, for a first time pacman frog owner, Ornata is a great frog to start with. Relatively hardy, beautiful, and excellent feeding response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Frog Whisperer View Post
    What exactly makes C. Cornuta more than a challenge?
    Mike is right. He has one and regularly force feeds her. Most of them appear completely healthy and then just die of unknown causes. They are expert level frogs.


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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    An adult Red or Green Ornate are awesome royal looking frogs. The Cornuta has more of a librarian look and are very challenging to keep healthy. Myself don't like force feeding anything, so I stay clear of the later.

    If you really want one that bad; then get a CBB baby and do find out what foods they are eating so you start with that diet. If their parents where treated against parasites and Chytrid; you might have a clean one to start with; but I would still do a fecal and test for Chytrid just to be sure. Good luck !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    don't rule out cranwelli can get some beautiful frogs with this group

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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    There are a variety of colors and personalities with the various species, but Cornuta tend to be a Pariah among the rest. Interaction with then usually just results with stressing them out.

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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    Or this wild female cranwelli

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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    You could also look into finding an aurita, but be prepared to pay out some money. They are not cheap. Their feeding responce is sometimes considered moderate, but I have one that is pretty aggressive when shes hungry. They are quite colorful and like a bit cooler temps with high humidity.
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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    I really like how the red and green Ornates look. I'm kinda thinking I'll look for either an Ornate or a Pyxie.. How well do Ornates generally eat, and do they tend to fast in the winter?
    0.1.0 Lepidobatrachus laevis-George-RIP
    0.1.0 Ceratophrys cranwelli x cornuta-Peggy
    0.0.1 Litoria caerulea-Fremont
    0.0.1 Lithobates catesbeianus-The Bullfrog
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya sp.-Clay and Gemma

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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Frog Whisperer View Post
    I really like how the red and green Ornates look. I'm kinda thinking I'll look for either an Ornate or a Pyxie.. How well do Ornates generally eat, and do they tend to fast in the winter?
    It differs from frog to frog, but they usually will eat every night if you let them. All species will fast a little in the winter. Its only their natural reaction to the earth's climate cycle. Those two red ornates I have may be hard to come by. Especially the male because both are Samurai red ornates and the male is really rare. The green and brown ornate are not as hard to get.

    Pyxies on the other hand are very VERY earger to eat just about anything including you or your hand at least. Males are easier to aquire than females so the odds are in your favor, but I wouldn't care if it were male or female. Both get to be a decent size, but you also need to realize that you are more likely to get the wrong species than the wrong gender.


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    Default Re: C. ornata vs. C. cornuta?

    you have to remember 95% horned frogs are captive bred so they do not have a cycle, only what we provide for them in there habitat .. Ornata have to be one of the most colorful frogs out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by fox403 View Post
    you have to remember 95% horned frogs are captive bred so they do not have a cycle, only what we provide for them in there habitat .. Ornata have to be one of the most colorful frogs out there
    They have a cycle. They can sense changes in barametric pressure and the changes of the seasons. Even if kept in spring and summer climate conditions they will go down or fast. Keeping light cycles at 12 hour intervals helps, but does not guarantee the frog will not decide to burrow down. That goes for all species.


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    Never knew this,, can you send me the link to this data please cheers james

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    Quote Originally Posted by fox403 View Post
    you have to remember 95% horned frogs are captive bred so they do not have a cycle...
    Agree with Colleen/Jerrod! It would take a very long time of captive breeding to override the instincts mother nature has genetically imprinted in a frog over thousand if not millions of evolutionary years .
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Quote Originally Posted by fox403 View Post
    Never knew this,, can you send me the link to this data please cheers james

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    The info is all over this site. Just look at how many are not eating this time of year. Also when you own multiple adults you notice when they go through these cycles.


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    OK fellas how can I argue with that logic it must be true ...hope you enjoy whatever frog you go for op,,, get as much info as you can before you decide

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