First frog tank ever. Probably need help

[Colorblizzle]

I run 2 filters on all my fishtanks my maintenance schedule since I do dense bioload is to do a cleaning every week. Rinsing biomedia and the sponge in one filter on alternate weeks. And once a month give the sand a thorough cleaning

[Colorblizzle]

So I guess I'm jut used to weekly filter cleaning. How often with just 2-3 frogs will it be necessary in my tank?

[deranged chipmunk]

At one point I had over 20 tanks going.

African frogs, absolutely. Not a LOT available in the hobby from mainland Africa. But they are quite a few tree frogs and reed frogs from Madagascar available, as well as what I keep, mantellas, the old world dart frogs

Even in a 180, keeping frogs and geckos is a monster challenge. First, they would need to be from the same locale. Second, they have different care requirements. Third, most people do it wrong, they pick two arboreal species. If you went with an arboreal gecko, like a day gecko and a mostly terrestrial frog or a toad, it becomes a bit more feasible. But still a challenge for even the most skilled expert. There are so many more items I could point out about how difficult it is to successfully pull off.

[deranged chipmunk]

I clean my filters annually. Have done it that way forever lol you're only really going to have urine as waste as long as you spot clean the poo. And nitrifying bacteria in the soil and your filter will take care of that easily.

[Colorblizzle]

Well it's likely not to happen either for me but it would still be cool to see. A slice if nature in my own home. I had a giant day gecko once. Loved to look at that thing until it's tail fell off, grew back but discolored. If I even looked at it wrong it took off like a bolt of lighting. My old created gecko tho he was ugly as it gets from battles with the day gecko and from his tail never growing back but at least I could hold him lol

[Colorblizzle]

I'll clean as much feces as I can find but I was planning in spending too much time looking. I figure compost for the plants lol. Annually sounds good. Really like the sound of that...

[s6t6nic6l]

hi

I have a build log for a FBT setup here: Fire Belly Toad Terrarium Project 1 Photos by s6t6nic6l | Photobucket

depending how bored you are and time spare for a full read the pages 24 to 31 may be of interest to you and if you read the notes accompanying the pics you will get an understanding for the methods used throughout the build which benefits the toads as well as yourself regarding minor maintenance needed with such a set up.

nic

[Colorblizzle]

Thanks nic! I will read when I get a second

[Colorblizzle]

For some reason your photobucket album won't load for me. I get nothing. Do you by chance have a build log on the forum?

[s6t6nic6l]

http://www.frogforum.net/fire-belly-...-new-look.html

you maybe can get into photobucket by this thread otherwise it could be your settings!

[Colorblizzle]

I copied the link into my browser idk.

[s6t6nic6l]

sorry posted wrong link in that post then, try now

[Colorblizzle]

Wasn't able to see the photo bucket content once again but I was able to see some pictures that you posted seperate let. Looks awesome s6t6nicl!

[Colorblizzle]

So let's see where am I, I bought the eggcrate and I've pieced together and silicones all the eggcrate together how I want. It's a perfect fit for the tank BUT so perfect that I can't get the eggcrate in without removing the trim. So I'm going to have to carefully trim it somehow.

Also I'm going to go pickup the weedblocker tomorrow, looked all over today and since it's winter most places no longer carry it but I found one. After that I just have to find good topsoil (again it's winter)

Once I'm ready to assemble how do I attach the weedblocker to the eggcrate? I'm planning on just siliconing it but figured is ask first...I'll post. Pic of the structure in the morning

[DigitalPunk]

You don't need to attach it to the egg crate. Cut it so it is roughly 1 inch to 2 inches long on all side and lay it on top of the egg crate your substrate will hold it in place.

[Mentat]

Hello and welcome to FF and your first build! Kind of got late here; but got a couple tips for you. If the kit you bought was for a terrarium (i.e. a Tetra kit with screen top) those can be filled with water to around 1/4 to 1/3 of it's depth only. Bill gave you good info and his build threads are very informative. Besides glue, can use zip ties to hold pieces of plastic egg crate together.

Following article has great information on FBTs: Frog Forum - Fire-Bellied Toad Care and Breeding - Bombina orientalis and relatives. If you have not bought filter yet; can use a small air pump with sponge filter or one of the smaller Supreme Ovation internal filters made by Danner. Your T8 bulb should max out near 6,500K if plants are planned.

Do not use the Fluker's Orange cubes; they are not good. Feed insects (sized same as distance between frog's eyes): veggies (carrots and lettuce) and cereals (oats and cherios) for 24-48 hours before use. Also, you can use supplements according to this info: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html. Hope this helps a bit and good luck !

[Colorblizzle]

I keep planted aquariums I know what spectrum I need for that I was just confused in what I need for the frogs. Setup came with a 25UVB bulb as well. Setup will only have 3" of water. The eggcrate is already held together solid with silicone. I know the soil will hold the fabric to the eggcrate but I also need the fabric on the sides. That's why I wonder how to attach. I did purchase the filter already btw. It's the fluval nano, I'm going to have it recessed in the land area and spray into stones and drip down back into the water area

[Colorblizzle]

This is how I have my eggcrate both put together and shown in its 3 seperate pieces. As 1 piece I wasn't able to fit the bottom in the tank. Perfect fit! But the trim got in the way. This plus the tank itself is as far as I am do far. I have more supplies, just don't have anything laid out just yet. Next step is the weedblocker (which apparently is seasonal but I bought on amazon today, coming soon) in assuming I can silicone it to the eggcrate??

[DigitalPunk]

assuming I can silicone it to the eggcrate??

You can, I have seen videos of people doing that. I just lay it over the egg crate and use the weight of the substrate to hold it in place.

[Colorblizzle]

And that's exactly what I'm planning on doing for the too where the substrate will sit, BUT on the sides where it dips into the water there's nothing to hold it in place