Thanks for info Bryan it was very straight forwardIll just focus on my tree frogs and make a cool looking viv for them.Ill get into PDFs once i get some more experience with plants and frogs.
Thanks for info Bryan it was very straight forwardIll just focus on my tree frogs and make a cool looking viv for them.Ill get into PDFs once i get some more experience with plants and frogs.
Don't be disappointed or give up on dart frogs. If I can do it, so can you. Years ago when I first started posting questions on the other forum people would tear me a new one for asking simple questions and say things like, "That's been asked before" or, "Have ever considered trying the search feature?" That kind of stuff.
Far too often I've read posts where someone went to a reptile show and impulse buys dart frogs then comes over to a forum and starts asking, "Now what? What do I feed them? What is the proper humidity and temperature?". Then a couple of weeks later they post that their dart frogs died or has some ailment or disease...and then asks, "What happened?". I can't even begin too tell you how many times I've encountered these posts. It's not even just dart frogs, it's snakes, lizards, turtles,(don't even get me started on turtles...). I've actually pulled dying turtles out of the dumpsters behind LPS's and nursed them back to health. I have seventeen turtles and eight of them are rescues...And yes...! There are evil people that throw sick and dying animals in dumpsters like they are nothing more than an old broken chair.
Go get your twenty gallon high and start designing it for dart frogs, but do it right. Take your time and create it in stages like I do. After it's been planted and has been growing in for at least a month or so, start looking for frogs. In the meantime, read up on all the species of dart frogs and pick the ones that are best for your experience level.
And always remember; Frog Forum - Home. "Great advice, friendly people, and lots of frogs!
Thank you Bryan
This is a great, supportive and encouraging reply!!!!
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Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
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This is a good thread
I can't help it !
I'm going to throw a fly in the ointment. A fruit fly
I have kept tree frogs ........( 2 species) since 2008-9 ish.
I think dart frogs are much easier !
This is food for thoughtright?
Learn to build, seed the enclosure , be familiar with the species' needs, culture the FFs, and you're set
They do the rest.
There is really nothing mysterious about it!
I believe the 'learning curve' is not as difficult as most are led to believe.
Thoughts ?
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
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I have to agree with Lynn! Dart Frogs are much, much easier than most anything else. I've kept amphibians for a while. When I first started there was a mantra that darts were nearly impossible to keep (particularly feed) and, like Brian said, you had to sell your first born to afford them. Now the price of the frogs has dropped tremendously (way below most CB treefrogs) and food is easy as pie to culture. You can buy premade fruit fly media and supplies from almost any frog related vendor. I find it way easier than having to run to the pet store just to find out they don't have the right size crickets. Additionally, dart frogs are much more forgiving in terms of habitat conditions. They can deal with "dirty" habitats. I have one tank that has been running for several years and the only cleaning it has every gotten is a quick glass wipe down. They are super hardy and make more satisfying captives than most tree frogs because of their diurnal and somewhat gregarious behavior.
Cheers!
Alex
PS If you don't want to culture fruit flies you can now sign up for weekly or monthly deliveries. Pricier but always a possibility!
Ranitomeya reticulata
Epipedobates anthonyi "Zarayunga"
Oophaga pumilio "Cayo Nancy"
Ranitomeya benedicta
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
Ameerega pepperi "Abiseo"
Epipedobates trivittatus "Baja Huallaga"
Cruziohyla calcarifer
Hylomantis lemur
Dendrobates leucomelas
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