Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 93

Thread: Basic Frog First Aid

  1. #1
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Basic Frog First Aid

    EMERGENCY DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT OF AMPHIBIAN DISEASES


    © Paul Rust - NorthWest Amphibian Rescue


    A very special thank you to Bruce Maclean, DVM




    THE SYMPTOMS LISTED IN THIS ARTICLE COULD BE INDICATORS OF A MUCH WORSE UNDERLYING PROBLEM. THE TREATMENTS ARE INTENDED FOR EMERGENCY USE TO STABILIZE YOUR ANIMAL UNTIL IT CAN BE SEEN BY AN AMPHIBIAN MEDICAL SPECIALIST. THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO REPLACE VETERINARY CARE.



    Before treating any frog, you need to be sure that it is sick. Therefore you should keep a close eye on it so you can intervene if necessary. Placing the animal in quarantine should keep any contagious diseases from spreading to the rest of the population.
    One of the problems commonly found among frogs is stress. It is caused by prolonged captivity in a small area or a vivarium with too many frogs in it. Messy vivariums and too much exposure to humans can also cause stress.
    Symptoms: animals won't eat and/or lay on their backs while twitching (often occurs with young animals). If you buy a new frog, place it in a small dish with some tepid water and a teaspoon of honey. Place the frog in this solution for 30 minutes. Then quarantine the frog for 30 days.

    A FEW NOTES ON MEDICATIONS USED IN THIS GUIDE


    Panacur (Febendazole) is a great medicine to have on hand. Purchase it as Panacur-C in the 4 gram packets. It is safe to use and some people recommend treating your collection routinely with it once every 1-2 weeks to keep worms under control. Personally I treat my frogs for 3 days on the first of every month. It is very easy to use; you just dust the food with it.

    Flagyl (Metronidazole) the oral liquid also a good one to have on hand as it is useful for a broad range of problems, from parasites to appetite to bacterial problems.

    Another good one to have around is a topical cream (Neosporin), as you could quickly apply it to any frog with a bump or scratch from shipping (or anything else) and head off a potentially serious infection.

    Another item I use commonly is an Electrolyte solution (Pedialyte), for new frogs or ones that seem dehydrated or listless, a few minutes in a bath of this can bring them around.

    As far as liquid de-wormers go, I would not get one of these unless recommended after a fecal exam, as they kill all the worms at once. A bunch of dead worms inside the frog can lead to death from Septic Shock.

    LymnoZyme is a pro-biotic that can be added to the water for aquatic species. It is a very safe treatment that competes for the nutrients (waste material) that pathogens require to survive and will reduce the bacterial count of Aeromonas, Pseudomonas or pathogens to such low levels that they will not be a threat to the health of your frogs. It is effective against both Gram negative and Gram positive bacteria.



    Symptoms:
    Disease:
    Treatment:



    Doesn't eat, loses weight, is listless, has lumps or other irregularities on the skin.
    Bacterial infections.
    Treat with ENROFLOXACIN (BAYTRIL) Put 8 drops in 125ml Tepid water. Put a lid on the bowl and make sure the frogs’ head stays above the water. Duration: 15 min. each day for 6 days.


    Listless, often found in water or hiding, watery droppings.
    Parasites in intestines, “Protozoa”
    Parasites are always present in the intestines, but they will cause problems when the animal is weak. Treat with METRONIDAZOLE (FLAGYL)
    1 drop in 8 drops of tepid water. Place one drop on the back of frog. Duration: Each day for 6 days. Treatment for the vivarium: 1ml per 5 liters of water; use this to spray the vivarium.


    Does eat, loses weight, listless.
    Parasites in intestines, “Worms”
    Treat with FENBENDAZOLE (PANACUR) 25mg/kg of bodyweight. Dissolve and drop on frogs’ back once a day for at least 10 days. Or dust the food items for 3 consecutive days.


    Pink area surrounding cloaca, bulging cloaca.
    Infections in intestines.
    Treat with SALT. Grind into a powder and sprinkle on food.


    Acts spasmodic, is active but loses weight, dry skin.
    Worms.
    Treat with ERGAMISOL(LEVAMISOLE) 1 drop in 3 drops of tepid water, pour water over frog's back, then place and leave one drop on its back. Duration: 7 days.


    Listless and doesn't eat.
    Hypothermal.
    Same as treatment for stress. Duration: 7 days.


    Flesh-colored spots on skin, toes or nose.
    Wounds, scrapes, cuts.
    SULFANILAMIDE POWDER Antibiotic. Apply to wound several times per day.


    Skinny front legs (young frogs).
    Spindly Leg Syndrome.
    No treatment. Euthanasia is the only option. TRICAINE METHANESULFONATE (FINQUEL) or (MS-222) Mix 2X the recommended dosage with an equal amount of SODIUM BICARBONATE Dissolve in an equal amount of water and inject into the abdomen.


    Fungus on skin.
    Red Leg, Pseudomonas, Hydrophila.
    Use the water area of a quarantine vivarium and add 0.6% SALT by volume. Make sure that the frog gets in the water often. Duration 6 weeks (refresh water often). Use a solution of 0.2% MERBROMIN (MERCUROCHROME)on areas of the frog with fungus, rinse after several minutes.




    PAUL’S FROG FIRST AID KIT
    HAVING THESE ITEMS ON HAND SHOULD GET YOU OUT OF MOST EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.

    SALT
    HONEY
    NEOSPORIN
    PEDIALYTE
    LYMNOZYME
    PANACUR-C (FENBENDAZOLE)
    FLAGYL (METRONIDAZOLE)
    BAYTRIL (ENROFLOXACIN)
    MERCUROCHROME (MERBROMIN)
    SULFA (SULFANILAMIDE POWDER)
    ERGAMISOL (LEVAMISOLE)
    TRICAINE METHANESULFONATE (MS-222) (FINQUEL)
    SODIUM BICARBONATE (BAKING SODA)
    Last edited by John; August 3rd, 2011 at 06:41 PM.

  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement
     

  3. #2
    abacabb
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    When I google panacur-C, I get a list of canine medication. Is that ok to use? Or is there a special frog one?

  4. #3
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by abacabb View Post
    When I google panacur-C, I get a list of canine medication. Is that ok to use? Or is there a special frog one?
    That's the stuff.


  5. #4
    abacabb
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    What would be the proper dose for an adult red eye tree frog?

  6. #5
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by abacabb View Post
    What would be the proper dose for an adult red eye tree frog?
    Does eat, loses weight, listless.
    Parasites in intestines, “Worms”
    Treat with FENBENDAZOLE (PANACUR) 25mg/kg of bodyweight. Dissolve and drop on frogs’ back once a day for at least 10 days. Or dust the food items for 3 consecutive days.

  7. #6
    abacabb
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    One more thing, what exactly is "tepid water"?

  8. #7
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by abacabb View Post
    One more thing, what exactly is "tepid water"?
    Tepid water is between warm and cold, lukewarm.

  9. #8
    doganie
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    I got these tadpoles a couple weeks ago, but am not sure what they are. One of them got really bloated and can only float upside down. The pictures of the single tadpole are of the bloated one, the last picture is of two of the other regular ones. I have six, the rest of them aren't bloated at all. I don't have a proper fish tank for them, but I change their water every other day with sink water that I set out two days in advance so the chlorine evaporates. I also put a rock in the water for them to cling on to or climb up on when their legs get bigger. I separated the sick one and didn't give it any food. Is there anything I can do to help it?
    Attached Images Attached Images    

  10. #9
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    There is little you can do for tadpoles beyond giving them fresh water and food. I see you are feeding them fish flakes, that's good. They don't look like Chorus Frogs, do you know what they are?

  11. #10
    doganie
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    I don't know what they're called, but I roughly know what they look like full grown. I got them from a pond near Seattle, Washington, and saw a couple full grown frogs there, most likely the same type. I don't really know how to adequately describe it, do you know of any websites that I could go to to help identify it? It was a pretty average frog in my opinion, not very colorful, dark shades with some freckles. Maybe about an inch or two long. When I found them, the pond was practically covered with all the tadpoles, and there was a lot of green algae. Thats all I can remember right now. The sick tadpole isn't doing so great though, it's barely moving anymore.

  12. #11
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    If it was in seattle try looking up Rana.aurora, or Pseudacris.regilla.Both are very common here on the west side.

  13. #12
    doganie
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    From what I remember, the Pseudacris regilla fits the description better, but I don't remember it having the trademark stripe on it. I might have just overlooked it though.
    Update on the sick tadpole, I think it died, It's not moving anymore and I can't see any inner-body movement, but luckily there is no sign of bloating in any of the other tadpoles.

  14. #13
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    I'm sorry it died. When the others morph into froglets you will be able to tell if they are P.regilla immediately. We have a care article http://www.frogforum.net/care-articl...orus-frog.html that may help you take care of them. Make sure they have a way to climb out of the water when they morph and have some flightless fruit flies ready to feed them, they are voracious when they are young.

  15. #14
    doganie
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    Thanks for all your help, I hope the others survive

  16. #15
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by doganie View Post
    Thanks for all your help, I hope the others survive
    You're welcome. Post some pics in your albums as they grow. Keep us updated.

  17. #16
    doganie
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    so sad, two more died. One of them bloated like the first one and the other just died, no bloating or anything, it looked completely normal except that it wasn't moving. I'm hoping that it was the water since I just changed it right now, but I couldn't change it before because I didn't have any water that had been sitting out for long enough. The other three tadpoles look okay, but they were moving a little slow.

  18. #17
    Kurt
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    I would get a dechlorinator like Stress Coat, it instantaneously makes tap water safe.

  19. #18
    abacabb
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    I'm going to dose my frog today with pancur-c. I see that it states on this page 25mg/kg Of weight. Does this actually mean 25 Milligrams per kilogram of weight? Was this a mistake? Did they mean 25mg per Gram of weight?

  20. #19
    Paul Rust
    Guest

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    Quote Originally Posted by abacabb View Post
    I'm going to dose my frog today with pancur-c. I see that it states on this page 25mg/kg Of weight. Does this actually mean 25 Milligrams per kilogram of weight? Was this a mistake? Did they mean 25mg per Gram of weight?
    It means what it states. You are using a canine remedy on a very small animal and it is hard to dose at that minute level. Just dust the crickets for 3 feedings, it's really easy. In case I didn't say it before;
    DUST THE CRICKETS

  21. #20
    100+ Post Member Ebony's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Nationality
    [New Zealand]
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    1,860
    Picture Albums: Member Photo Albums

    Default Re: Basic Frog First Aid

    Paul... You forgot the smiley face

Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 6 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 6 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Basic Medical Worksheet
    By Paul Rust in forum Off-Topic
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: March 21st, 2010, 05:20 PM
  2. Another basic, basic question....
    By oneshotveth in forum Tree Frogs
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: February 21st, 2010, 04:11 PM
  3. Basic Pacman Help!
    By Username in forum Vivarium, Terrarium & Enclosure Discussion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: August 25th, 2009, 08:49 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •