Basic Frog First Aid

[Paul Rust]

You are welcome. I hope this ends well. please keep us posted on the progress.

[bwhiteowl7]

Hi Paul

I made it to the vet and I took both frogs so the vet could see the difference in their appearances.

Poor little girl frog only weighed 41 grams now - she used to be the same size as her mate.

He weighed in at 63 grams.

I put heat hand warmers under a little travel cage and a bowl of water and rubber tree leaves on damp paper towels. While on the way there the male pooped in the water - he ate 3 crickets last night and his poop was normal.

She just stayed on the leaf -- The Vet Dr. who saw us told me he is not an expert vet on frogs and hasnt seen too many.

He would take a fecal or attempt on her since i told him she hasnt eaten in 10 days now =((

He didnt want to test her skin either -- she is sloughing a lot of skin now under her body and around her legs - it was way noticiable today for the 1st time and he said she has a bacterial infection from his visual -- although her top skin looks good - no blotches or sloughing there. He mention aner - something bacteria. He said her legs were a little red also - more than normal. I am thinking the stress of not having her usual rutine for the 12 days we were gone is the contributer and I pray if this is what it is that we have caught it in time .

He gave me Baytril to apply .02 cc between her shoulders everyday for 14 days.

Will Baytril kill this bacteria ? Is there anything else I can bath her in that will not cause the Baytrill to hurt her worse? If so for how long?

I applied the BAytril as soon as I got her in her new cage and into her water bowl.

He gave me panacur oral liquid to give 2 doses at begin and end of 14 days
but he doesnt think its parasites.

He wouldnt treat her cage mate at the same time.

I put her in another cage tonight that has Hawaian Moss in it and a bowl of water.

I soaked her in Pedialyte for 10 minutes - it was plain and diluted in pure water though- I was not sure if it would burn her underside if it was pure Pedialyte?

The Vet also - gave me a can of food they use for intensive care feeding for dogs- it smelled like liverwurst -- He said i should make a gravy with a little piece of it and feed it to Her with a syringe of 4. cc --- 1 time per day - to keep her strenght up. I added a touch of boiling water to make gravy and then let it cool before putting in a syringe.

I had to use a cleaned credit card to pry her mouth open and my 10 year old helped by putting the syringe of food into her mouth and administered the food -- i gently rubbed her throat and little head and she finally blinked her eyes in that funny wiggle - like she does at eating crickets - so we know she swallowed it.

I then held her cupped in my hands like a little cave with her head slightly elevated for about 10 minutes and my son and I sent her good thoughts and love.

It has been 3 hours since we force fed her and the food is still in her - no poops or sign of it returning.

I did not give her the Panacur tonight - As a Mom and seeing what giving too many medications at one time can do to a child -- I was terrified that giving this sweet little frog Both on the same day would destroy her worse.

So I will wait and give that panacur to her tomorrow night when we feed her liver soup again.
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One of the Vet Techs there gave me the name of another Dr Vet in that town that might
know frogs better -- I called and left a message for him to call me tomorrow

If She can be tested by skin or blood to see exactly what bacteria - to make sure this is the correct Antibiotic - then I will be going back again and drive the 1 1/2 hours there--

I just want to save her and see her healthy , hungry , happy and hoppy again.

She is such a precious gift from Nature and She is so loved and wanted in our family.

Any more suggestions or ideas Paul, will be much appreciated Thank YOU.

We are Praying for a positive turnaround.

Thanking You again for your kindness and concern Paul

Becca

[Paul Rust]

WOW!!! I think you have it covered for now. I am impressed and happy to see an animal owner taking this kind of responsibity for the animals under their care. I really have no other suggestions at this time. Great job!

[bwhiteowl7]

We really do treat all our animals like they are truly our family and We truly do love them that way , and when they are kept under a human's care they are so dependent on us. I can see with reptiles amphibians how challenging it is to even notice they are sick until they stop eating -

there are so many conflicting schools of knowdedge everywhere. I know I spent at least 16 hours searching on the internet for 4 days for help and reading.

I wish an amphibian vet would write a book that is definitive for the different captive breeds, I am sure many would buy it.

Thank You again Paul so much for being here and responding and suggesting

I will update in a few days.

Blessings, Becca