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    SpyderFrog
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    Hey Paul,i have been looking for about an hour about how to find the cure to aid a american green tree frog.His legs will often get blister like things on them then pop and leav open wounds.his left thigh has not healed over but it is spreading and becoming severly irritable...even by water it will start bleeding.Hes eating habits seem to be alright besides the fact he can not climb well or attack fast.Can you help me out?Can anyone?

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    Flagyl (Metronidazole) I googled this and it came back as being a prescription. Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spec View Post
    Flagyl (Metronidazole) I googled this and it came back as being a prescription. Is this true?
    You can find it if you look in fish medications under generic names. Metroplex is a generic that comes to mind.

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    Hi Paul:

    FYI, there is a probiotic called Lymnozyme that is specially formulated for Xenopus and fish. It is quite effective in preventing red-leg and other gram-negative microbes.
    Terry Gampper
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    Paul Rust
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgampper View Post
    Hi Paul:

    FYI, there is a probiotic called Lymnozyme that is specially formulated for Xenopus and fish. It is quite effective in preventing red-leg and other gram-negative microbes.
    Nice, thank you Terry!

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    Ok Terry,
    I educated myself on LymnoZyne. This is a great recommendation and I have added it to the article. Thank you very much for that.

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    ISW Avalon
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    I've recently purchased two young red eyed tree frogs from an expo. They were both very healthy upon purchase. But after about about one of them developed a discolored spot on its back. I thought i may have been a bruise at first, but it seemed to grow into what could possibly be a fungal or bacterial infection. It does not seem to effect his normal activity. It does not seem to be getting worse, but it is not getting better either. Any insight on how to treat it would be greatly appreciated.

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    Paul Rust
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    Hello and welcome.
    To me they look like bruises from jumping around in a small container or rough handled during transit. I would keep an eye on it and as long as he is eating he should be fine. New frogs are also under a lot of stress, try to keep your distance and let him settle in in a quiet location. He may not eat for a week or so either.
    I think he looks healthy.

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    froggylady2c4u
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    My white's tree frog has pinched his leg. I'm not sure if it was broken or not. He is pulling back on the leg now, but the fingers are not being used at all. I'm wanting to know if this will heal and if he will use the fingers. He is hiding under the moss, not eating(that I know of), I have not heard him bark at all. I just got him as a Christmas present from my daughter. He has plenty of water, cage is 65-75 degrees at all times, has night and day lamps, endless supply of live crickets, and a friend too. I'm worried about my new baby. I love him and don't want anything bad to happen to him.

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    Paul Rust
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    First, remove whatever the condition was that caused the injury. It needs to be seen by a vet familiar with amphibians to answer your questions.

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    froggylady2c4u
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    Paul, I can't remove the condition that caused the injury. It was the cage door. It got caught in confusion as we got a call to get out to my vehicle which was broken into. In the confusion to rush out to the vehicle, 5 of us, humans, put him in the cage and none of us realized his arm was in the door. We came in 10 minutes later, and saw his arm, and I cried. My new baby was hurt!, Not to mention, my froggy vehicle had to be towed away too! Bad Christmas Eve all around! Now, I'm just worried about my Bruiser, the van is in the shop, I want Bruiser to be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froggylady2c4u View Post
    My white's tree frog has pinched his leg. I'm not sure if it was broken or not. He is pulling back on the leg now, but the fingers are not being used at all. I'm wanting to know if this will heal and if he will use the fingers. He is hiding under the moss, not eating(that I know of), I have not heard him bark at all. I just got him as a Christmas present from my daughter. He has plenty of water, cage is 65-75 degrees at all times, has night and day lamps, endless supply of live crickets, and a friend too. I'm worried about my new baby. I love him and don't want anything bad to happen to him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rust View Post
    First, remove whatever the condition was that caused the injury. It needs to be seen by a vet familiar with amphibians to answer your questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by froggylady2c4u View Post
    Paul, I can't remove the condition that caused the injury. It was the cage door. It got caught in confusion as we got a call to get out to my vehicle which was broken into. In the confusion to rush out to the vehicle, 5 of us, humans, put him in the cage and none of us realized his arm was in the door. We came in 10 minutes later, and saw his arm, and I cried. My new baby was hurt!, Not to mention, my froggy vehicle had to be towed away too! Bad Christmas Eve all around! Now, I'm just worried about my Bruiser, the van is in the shop, I want Bruiser to be better.
    You obviously care about this frog so i will offer up my observations, this is merely my opinion.

    Referring to another post of yours:
    "I have a bug eye tree frog in the terrarium with my white's tree frog. As long as they are the same size, they are fine."

    You don't know how well they are doing after only a few days together. The hiding in the moss and not eating suggest it is under a lot of stress. The combination of being handled without time to settle into it's new home, a tankmate of a different species, and the possibility of a serious injury all send up red flags for me and I believe this frog is in real trouble.

    I would recommend putting the Whites in a quarantine tank for 30 days. This tank should be kept at the proper temp and humidity and a 12 hour photoperiod. Give him a good place to hide and access to fresh water. Keep him in a room where it is quiet and leave him alone for a week or so and only peek in to feed him and check on him. This should be the standard protocol for any new arrival. If you want more help and advice, post a new thread in the forum and people can try and help. Good luck.

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    froggylady2c4u
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    Thank you. I will do this and keep a very keen eye on Bruiser. I just hope he heals. I love all my babies and feel bad enough that he got hurt, to begin with. I'm sorry for him if putting a friend with him caused him even more stress. I will separate him. I do have enough tanks around here to do that. Thank you again for all your help. It is much appreciated.

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    I'm not exactly sure which of the below situations I should treat for. I will try to go for the Baytril bath first, due to my most obvious symptoms: http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...ee-frog-2.html and http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...html#post44087.

    I found the Baytril here, will this work?: http://www.allbirdproducts.com/newpr...s/baytril.html
    And the Panacur is something Greg suggested, but I'm only seeing the medication available for canines and felines. Which should I buy?

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    Doesn't eat, loses weight, is listless, has lumps or other irregularities on the skin.
    Bacterial infections.
    Treat with ENROFLOXACIN (BAYTRIL) Put 8 drops in 125ml Tepid water. Put a lid on the bowl and make sure the frogs’ head stays above the water. Duration: 15 min. each day for 6 days.

    Listless, often found in water or hiding, watery droppings.
    Parasites in intestines, “Protozoa”
    Parasites are always present in the intestines, but they will cause problems when the animal is weak. Treat with METRONIDAZOLE (FLAGYL)
    1 drop in 8 drops of tepid water. Place one drop on the back of frog. Duration: Each day for 6 days. Treatment for the vivarium: 1ml per 5 liters of water; use this to spray the vivarium.

    Does eat, loses weight, listless.
    Parasites in intestines, “Worms”
    Treat with FENBENDAZOLE (PANACUR) 25mg/kg of bodyweight. Dissolve and drop on frogs’ back once a day for at least 10 days. Or dust the food items for 3 consecutive days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaddock View Post
    This is what I use.
    Baytril ® Otic (Brand)
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    Paul Rust
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaddock View Post
    I'm not exactly sure which of the below situations I should treat for. I will try to go for the Baytril bath first, due to my most obvious symptoms: http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...ee-frog-2.html and http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...html#post44087.

    I found the Baytril here, will this work?: http://www.allbirdproducts.com/newpr...s/baytril.html
    And the Panacur is something Greg suggested, but I'm only seeing the medication available for canines and felines. Which should I buy?
    I use the canine formula in the 4 gram packets.
    Panacur-C

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    Kaddock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rust View Post
    I use the canine formula in the 4 gram packets.
    Panacur-C
    Thanks!

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    Kaddock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rust View Post
    I use the canine formula in the 4 gram packets.
    Panacur-C
    Is ther anywhere to buy this without the hassle of perscription?

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    Paul Rust
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    A prescription is not required for Panacur-C.

    http://www.1800petmeds.com/Panacur+C-prod10674.html

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