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    what is the best water
    bottled
    or
    distilled
    I prefer to use one of those. OR is it better to use treated tap? ~michael

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    Michael,
    It depends on the use,

    For hydration of substrate, water bowl or water feature in the enclosure.
    Soaks for the frog,
    Treated tap water with a high quality water treatment like Sea Chem prime. is the best for these uses.
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    Now for Foggers , misting the enclosure and not the frog directly. Distilled water is the preferred type since it will not leave spots on glass
    and will not leave mineral deposits in foggers or misting systems.

    In reality bottled water can't be trusted. Since you don't know 100% where it came from or what is in it.
    I have learned that the hard way.
    I used inexpensive bottled water to run my fogger but had a problem with minerals that were added.

    Hope this helps.
    BTW you can get the above sea chem prime on amazon pretty cheaply check the price at your local pet store first and shipping charges.



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    i think im going to use distilled for all of it i don't want spots at all. (its not that expensive)

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael1846 View Post
    i think im going to use distilled for all of it i don't want spots at all. (its not that expensive)
    You can use distilled for misting ONLY. For expanding substrate or in the water dish you need either bottled spring water or treated tap water. Distilled doesn't have any minerals in it, and can cause serious health problems for the frog.
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    Everyone above is right, do not use distilled water for anything but misting or a fogger.

    Something to read about the different water types: http://www.frogforum.net/vivarium-te...html#post11325

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael1846 View Post
    i think im going to use distilled for all of it i don't want spots at all. (its not that expensive)
    If you do that; your frogs will loose body minerals and electrolytes to the distilled water, suffer nervous disorders, and possibly die . Follow Louis and others advice or you will hurt your frogs .
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Listen to the members above. Your frog will die a slow painful death if you use distilled water for anything other than misting and foggers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DVirginiana View Post
    You can use distilled for misting ONLY. For expanding substrate or in the water dish you need either bottled spring water or treated tap water. Distilled doesn't have any minerals in it, and can cause serious health problems for the frog.
    It's ok I read up on some books before i went to the store today. (Allways a good idea) and I bought some bottled water and 1 gallon of distilled. I probably shouild have looked at frog forum to edit my last post in between. Sorry bout that. I promise I'm not going to kill my frog with lack of minerals. ~Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Listen to the members above. Your frog will die a slow painful death if you use distilled water for anything other than misting and foggers.
    It's ok I read up on some books before i went to the store today. (Allways a good idea) and I bought some bottled water and 1 gallon of distilled. I probably shouild have looked at frog forum to edit my last post in between. Sorry bout that. I promise I'm not going to kill my frog with lack of minerals. ~Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    If you do that; your frogs will loose body minerals and electrolytes to the distilled water, suffer nervous disorders, and possibly die . Follow Louis and others advice or you will hurt your frogs .
    It's ok I read up on some books before i went to the store today. (Allways a good idea) and I bought some bottled water and 1 gallon of distilled. I probably shouild have looked at frog forum to edit my last post in between. Sorry bout that. I promise I'm not going to kill my frog with lack of minerals. ~Michael

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    Lesson learned edit posts. I just bought 2 gallons of distilled and 3 of spring.(I need the distilled for something else also) (also I just bought rubber tipped tongs for my Pac man off Amazon they are on sale!) Have a good night and a marry Christmas~Michael

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    To the right of the "Reply With Quote" bottom is a "Multiple Quote Bottom." After you select all the quotes you want to reply to; then select "Reply to Thread" and you will have all of them grouped in one post.

    Recommend read the article Cody linked: http://www.frogforum.net/vivarium-te...html#post11325. Depending on how it's treated and your city codes; sometimes bottled "spring water" is fine for humans; but not for frogs. Good luck !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    I use spring on everything. My fish, my plants, and my self. (I have a 100 plants in my room) I think it will be ok, but I learn new things every day so that might change. ~Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    sometimes bottled "spring water" is fine for humans; but not for frogs. Good luck !
    Like I said, I don't trust bottled water.

    I have a GE smart water system for my drinking water that is a under sink water filter.
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    And for my aquariums and terrariums I also use a larger GE smart water system that supplies water to
    my 50G water conditioner that I made for my aquariums and terrariums.
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    The replacement filters do cost around $40.00 for each system but it is much cheaper than buying
    bottled water that can have stuff in it that you don't know about.
    Total installed cost for both filters was about $200US but I bought these from the hardware store and probably
    could have gotten them much cheaper via amazon. ( That was before I was aware of amazon.)

    Sorry I don't have a picture for the conditioner since I am not home.

    But it consists of a 50G food grade drum that has a submersible aquarium heater set to 77F
    And a large ring shaped airstone that helps extra dissolved gasses to escape and any remaining chlorine
    bubble away.
    Durring the winter months the water is colder and can absorb more gasses and cause problems for fish.

    Since I am travel a lot I have a automatic water changing system for my aquariums.
    And my wife is too prissy to do it for me.
    I made the system after I had a two month project and I lost just about every fish
    Since my wife wouldn't do water changes.

    And I am a engineer and I like to do that kind of stuff.
    I won't go into describing the water changing system because that is a bit too long and really needs a thread of its own.

    I have learned the hard way to read posts completely and twice since I some times miss things.



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    Quote Originally Posted by michael1846 View Post
    I use spring on everything. My fish, my plants, and my self. (I have a 100 plants in my room) I think it will be ok, but I learn new things every day so that might change. ~Michael
    I've used bottled spring water before when I had to keep my reptiles for awhile at a place that only had well water. Didn't want to shock them by suddenly introducing all the bacteria and metals that well water has in it.

    Sounds like you have a lot of animals that need treated water. You should really look into getting a bottle of the SeaChem purifier and just reusing those gallon jugs and treating a new batch of water every few days; if you go through it quickly there's really no problem with treating it and using it over 3-4 days. Over the long run it's a LOT cheaper than buying spring every time, and you don't have to worry about how honest a specific brand is being about the source and treatment of their spring water.
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    I have more plants than animails.(I ordered java moss today) but yes 10% of my plants can not have tap. It's hard but I love it.~Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael1846 View Post
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    Nice! I'm probably the world's only plant biologist that can't keep a houseplant alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVirginiana View Post
    Nice! I'm probably the world's only plant biologist that can't keep a houseplant alive.
    Your plant bioligest? I'm not even an expert. ~Michael

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