I like your new avatar btw poison, also did you know pluto is not considered a planet anymore...lol
I like your new avatar btw poison, also did you know pluto is not considered a planet anymore...lol
There is actually already a thread on this forum about that video.
http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...chameleon.html
It's quite sad really, still though I had forgotten about that video so thanks for posting it again.
I agree with that "poison beauties" guy. The guy did go about it wrong and he himself may be a sick person just for trying to get a reaction from people. But I don't see anything wrong about feeding chams or any other common species as feeders. And this is coming from someone who has owned chams (have a young one now) and other reptiles in the past.
There are many feeders available rather than offering a Chameleon to your frog, BUT given the chance most highly predacious species of frog would willingly accept it as food. Not a common food source, but a whole meal in one nonetheless.
I myself would not use them as a feeded, but it adds much needed variety.
I read the comments, he was sick of it because it didn't grow. Here is a quote from one of his comments:
"@CBGReptilez because the previous owner didn't give it correct uvb so it never grew. the chameleon in this video was well over 6 months old, and veiled chameleons should be adults in that time. so i got sick of it not growing and having a ****ty life so i decided to put it down"
Poison, I agree with you but the guy you agree with says it's the natural food chain, it isn't the natural food chain because I bet YEMEN chameleons don't come across AFRICAN bullfrogs in the wild very often.
I also have a cham.
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I remember seeing this. I think the guy claimed he got the chameleon when it was sickly and he alleges he did this out of compassion because of its unhealthiness. Probably BS.
I don't have to watch TV to understand nature after spending the majority of my life living and traveling throughout the South Pacific. I have, however, watched the discovery channel. It usually catches my attention when nothing else is onMy younger brother's feed their snakes African soft furs. I feed my monitor baby rabbits and rats (which are fairly cute) and about a dozen different invertebrates. I wouldn't hesitate offering it anoles and even an occasional garden variety snake that gets too close to my house.
Lowly as in humble, common, and not exotic compared to what is traditionally an expensive and exotic animal (a chameleon).
Anyway, I did not realize the story behind this guy's video....still, he's pretty bold for putting it out there knowing that its unusual especially when you are in control of "Nature" as far as what you offer to an animal in captivity.
Some thoughts on this subject. Often I've pondered the issue of which animals are acceptable to raise for food. If you are going to keep carnivores, then some kind of choice needs to made concerning what kind of animal you'll be raising and killing( or paying someone else to raise and kill for you).
If you can buy a piglet to feed to your snake, why can't you buy a kitten or puppy to feed to your snake?. Why is feeding a cat to a snake animal cruelty?. Who decided that a cat was a companion animal with a special status and a pig was not.
Millions of surplus dogs and cats are already being euthanized.
This person's attitude does bother me. I don't like the idea that a person has a pet reptile and when they are tired of taking care of their pet, they feed their pet to another pet. However one feels about the morality of which animals are acceptable to feed to another animal, this is a troubling way to view an animal you've kept as a pet. It seems they hold the viewpoint that when they no longer want a certain pet, it's acceptable to kill them. I wonder if they at least tried to find the unwanted chameleon a new home, probably not.
I don't like the idea of giving a pet improper care and then killing them because of that improper care. Seems like a convenient way out of giving your pets proper care. If the pet gets sick due to improper care, you won't correct the care or attempt to treat them, you'll kill the pet.
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