tiger monkey legged tree frog sick

[optimalcr]

My tiger legged monkey tree frog recently has gone to a dark green color and lost all color on his underside. He is acting very weak and not climbing. He is the only frog in the tank as we have a 30 gallom tank with fire bellied toads. He eats on a regular basis and we order a crickets from fluker farms. Change his tank every 2 weeks we need major help here .

[poison]

It may be that time of the year for your fellow (brumation). Looks healthy to me. Please give a run down on his setup. Temps, humidity ect.

[optimalcr]

Temp is about 80 and he hangs out close to the light so my temp is taken up there. I came home to him completly submurged in the water bowl. I dont have humidity yet (on order from amazon) he is worrying me he seems weak. I use red pine bark chips in the bottom of the tank and fake plants. I put 3-5 crickets in cevery day and they are typically gone next day.

[flybyferns]

Sorry you are having trouble

I have never kept this species of frog.
I do understand however:

-their temp and humidity needs are a bit tricky to maintain:

Temps:
a day time temperature range between 75-82 degrees F.
-Some care sheets will say up to 84
Maintain night temperature range between 70-74 degrees F.

Humidity:
low to moderate levels of humidity – 60% max This is very important ! Therefore daily misting may not be necessary
remember they are from dryer 'natural' habitats
- so you want to have a few humidity gauges in the enclosure in different spots

Plus they need - a well ventilated enclosure

He needs UVB lighting

You will want to get rid of the substrate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He could possible swallow some causing an intestinal obstruction.
I would replace it with slightly dampened paper towel ( just damp enough to keep the paper towel flat)

"He is the only frog in the tank as we have a 30 gallon tank with fire bellied toads"
Sorry , I'm confused .............do you mean he is WITH the toads?
If so ( YIKES) you ABSOLUTELY have to move him- ASAP
Sorry if I don't understand what you meant by this

How long have you had him ?

Are you dusting the crickets with Calcium and vitamin powder ?
How often?

Are you using a feeder bowl ( or do you let them roam on the substrate ) ?

He is small ---- What size crickets are you feeding him ? ---they should be small

-if you are not using a feeder bowl then you really have no idea if he has eaten them

Are you de-chlorinating the water ?

The soaking in the dish thing:
could mean a few things
***** intestinal blockage ( have you found poop lately ) *****
-parasites ( detected by a fecal test / by a vet/ then treated)
-simply needed to soak
-is ill and was too weak to move and/or climb

Please read carefully, correct and/or do additional research on the proper husbandry of your little guy

Possible make an appt with a herp vet / experienced w/ this species

If you do not have one; you could email Dr Frye --- It can't hurt to have a conversation
http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html


You could answer the ??? above and we can move forward

BTW - detailing all of this information in an email to Dr Frye will be necessary as well as the frog's length snout to vent
( tip of his nose to the very end of his body between his legs)

Handle him only when absolutely necessary, when you have to do this use powerless non-latex gloves.
If handling is necessary and gloves are not immediately available... wash and rinse your hands...make sure your skin is dampened with distilled or his de-chlorinated water.

Keep us posted
Lynn

[Mentat]

Agree with everything Lynn said! Make sure you cover all these questions and include photos of frog (recent showing problem) and it's enclosure. Thank you !

“Trouble in the Frog Enclosure”

The following information will be very helpful if provided when requesting assistance with either your frog or enclosure. To help with your questions, please utilize the below list and post the information in the proper forum area to get advice from FF members that keep the same frog. This will allow for little confusion and a faster more informed response.


1. Size of enclosure
2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
3. Humidity
4. Temperature
5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
6. Materials used for substrate
7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
- How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
8. Main food source
9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
10. Lighting
11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
12. When is the last time he/she ate
13. Have you found poop lately
14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)
15. How old is the frog
16. How long have you owned him/her
17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred
18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
19. How often the frog is handled
20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)


by Lynn(Flybyferns) and GrifTheGreat.

[Java]

Try organic plants (real) instead of the plastic (as all plastics contain chemicals, no matter what.) I to all real and everyone thrives much better after being sick for a period. Plus, the plants break down toxins and waste. Generally, I also suggest 2/3 substrate and 1/3 organic soil. There could be iron deficiency or lack of minerals. A lot of people don't understand that natural is always better and soil does have more nutrients than just substrate (substrate is more for humidity.)

Try ants, crickets from another place (mine all eat PetCo's- nothing special), and a few other types of insects. If that doesn't help, I wouldn't put food in the terrarium for a few days but leave plenty of water. Hope he may just have a tummy ache, bloat, backage, etc. and it will pass.

Also, is it colder there? Climate change? Is he lethargic because of weather conditions, change in something, etc?

Start keeping a diary and post on here with the results after a week or so.