Stress?

[elliotulysses]

Hello. I am concerned about the behavior of my two frogs. Is it normal for ACFs to swim in a very active fashion during water changes? They seem to swim quite a bit, but I also used a turkey baster (which seems to stress them out) before the adding of water. I only recently started using the turkey baster, so maybe that is where the stress is coming from?
I use seachem prime with my water, which also adds a coat for them not to be stressed, but are there any other products that one may use to try to keep them calm? Or is there no reason at all? As they do calm down a bit after the water changes.


Right now they are both juveniles and living in a 2.5 gallon aquarium. It is more high than it is long, but they will be moved to a 20 gallon when it is completely cycled.
I do daily water changes/clean ups of waste. They range from 20% to 40%, trying to do a bigger one every friday. I feed them about once every two days to every other day. I'm feeding them reptomin with calcium to help bone growth.
I went to the pet store this weekend and found that the water was good, except some higher than average ammonium. I did a larger change that day and have been very adamant about keeping up with water changes to get it to a more reasonable level.
Tomorrow I am going to the pet store to check my water again in that enclosure.

Also, I am purchasing a new product. It's called Lymnozyme and it is supposed to prevent redleg and other icky things. Has anyone used it?

[elliotulysses]

Is stress coat a good option for this?
Today they aren't swimming frantically and seem pretty calm B)

Should I not use seachem prime, as it only "removes" ammonia for 48 hours? I have a simple water conditioner that does similar things to seachem, so maybe it is best to stick with the 20% water changes?

[elliotulysses]

I figured this may help the situation, giving the exact details of how my frogs are living.
SOME INFO MAY CHANGE. I'M GETTING MY WATER CHANGED TONIGHT.

1. Tank Size and volume of water in it (full, 1/2 filled, etc.)? Nearly full, but with enough room for them to breathe.

2. Number of inhabitants including all frogs and any fish?: Two juvenile ACFs

3. Water source and any conditioner treatments? : Distilled, no additives water or tap water. Both get treated with Seachem Prime before being added to a tank.

4. Water Temperature and how is it heated (if so)? Room temperature, heat does not get overly hot, does not get overly cold.

5. Water chemistry levels: pH; Ammonia (NH3); Nitrites (NO2); Nitrates (NO3)? Note that if you do not have test kits, most aquariums/pet shops will do complimentary tests if you take a clean water sample. : Going to the pet store today to get an accurate reading.

6. Describe any filter system including model and media? No filter, the tank is 2.5 gallons. I do daily water changes of about 20%[/COLOR]

7. Substrate type? bare bottom

8. Tank set-up (plants (live or artificial), driftwood, hide outs and other decor? - How were things prepared prior to being put into the tank? : All rinsed with chlorinated water, then put in empty tank. There is one vase with two entrance and exit holes.

9. Main frog staple food and any treats? How often you feed? Reptomin Floating sticks and shrimp pellets. I feed them about every other day or every three days.

10. CA, vitamins, and any other additives used (how often)? There is calcium in the reptomin.

11. Lighting set-up and hours it's used? Regular daily lighting of on/off.

12. When is the last time frog ate? They both ate last night

13. Have you found poop lately? I am not too sure what ACF poop looks like! I may have or I may have not. Someone please describe this to me?

14. A picture would be helpful including frog and tank (any including cell phone pics are fine). I think I have fairly recent (about a week or two old) pictures on my photo album.

15. How old is the frog? : Unsure! My guess is about one and a half to two months. It was unclear how old they were when purchased

16. How long have you owned him/her? I have owned Carlos for over a month and Cecil for almost a month.

17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred? : I believe they are captive.

18. Any medications in the water (treatment dosis and for how long)? : No medicine

19. Any salt in water (how much)? None

20. Is the tank kept in a high or low traffic area? : A fair traffic area

21. Describe tank maintenance to include water changes, cleaning, media changes, etc.): I clean excess food or (presummably) waste daily with a turkey baster. Then I make sure the water is about 20% down and I do a water change with Seachem Prime treated water.

[elliotulysses]

Also, here are some links to videos if this helps anyone determine if they look stressed or if it is normal behavior

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[carsona246]

Make sure the temperature is the same, but in a small tank it's normal for most aquatic things to be a little more active when you are doing a waterchange. I wouldn't worry about it unless they start to show signs of illness.

[elliotulysses]

Make sure the temperature is the same, but in a small tank it's normal for most aquatic things to be a little more active when you are doing a waterchange. I wouldn't worry about it unless they start to show signs of illness.

My apartment tends to get a little warm during the day, but I just direct a tank to their holding area. The temperature is around 74 F

[Mentat]

Hi Eli, frogs in video look fine. Answered some of your questions below. If it was me; would move the frogs into the larger tank now. Get a small bottle of Seachem Stability and follow the label instruction and treat new tank with frogs in it for two weeks or until nitrites hit zero. Then follow on with normal water changes (around 20% weekly) using dechlorinated tap water. Seachem Prime is good and would stay away from any conditioners with Aloe due to binders interfering with frogs skin functions .

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3. Water source and any conditioner treatments? : Distilled, no additives water or tap water. Both get treated with Seachem Prime before being added to a tank.
Should not use distilled water with frogs, live plants, or fish.

6. Describe any filter system including model and media? No filter, the tank is 2.5 gallons. I do daily water changes of about 20%
Frogs being more "active" during your cleaning or water changes is normal. They are just trying to get away from the giant hands and can't.

13. Have you found poop lately? I am not too sure what ACF poop looks like! I may have or I may have not. Someone please describe this to me?
When feeding ReptoMin poop looks similar to it.

[elliotulysses]

Hi Eli, frogs in video look fine. Answered some of your questions below. If it was me; would move the frogs into the larger tank now. Get a small bottle of Seachem Stability and follow the label instruction and treat new tank with frogs in it for two weeks or until nitrites hit zero. Then follow on with normal water changes (around 20% weekly) using dechlorinated tap water. Seachem Prime is good and would stay away from any conditioners with Aloe due to binders interfering with frogs skin functions .

What I've been finding as stool ends up being kind of dust-like.
I did at a tiny bit of API's Stress Coat + because they seemed a little upset, but it does make sense as to why they are scared.

My big tank is not completely cycled and I was using janitorial ammonia to get the biofilter started. Should I do a complete, or nearly complete change then use Seachem?

[elliotulysses]

Also it is very reassuring to see that their behavior is pretty normal! And they look so majestic when they swim.
Should Prime be a good product to deal with stress? It is supposed to help with reducing stress.